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kingofthesparks

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New MOT Rules Ahead ???????

The government is currently considering a change in the law surrounding MoT tests for vehicles in the UK. If the proposed changes get the thumbs up, motorists will only need to MoT their vehicles once every two years, compared to the current requirement to test cars annually.

And not only that, owners of brand new cars could be granted an extra year before they need to get their vehicle tested. Currently new cars are put through an MoT at three years old, but new plans from the government could see this being changed to four years.

The MoT system was first introduced in 1967. Only vehicles deemed to be roadworthy and safe are issued a certificate. The government have recognised that vehicles have come on a long way since the sixties, both in terms of design and safety.

Phillip Hammond, Transport Secretary is in favour of the changes. He believes that cars are much safer now than fifty years ago. He explains “Car technology has come a long way since the 1960s, that’s why we think its right to look again to check whether we still have the right balance of MoT testing for modern vehicles. We want to work with the industry and motorists to get the decision absolutely right”.

These proposals could save motorists hundreds of pounds. Over the course of ten years a vehicle may only need to be tested four times, compared to the eight times under the current law.

While potentially good news for motorists, the new rules could have a huge impact on the 1,900 MoT garages in this country who will undoubtedly be affected, in an already rocky economy. Many garages rely on the annual MoT tests for additional income.

And its not just garages who are concerned about the possible changes, expert analysts have predicted that the new rules could lead to thirty extra deaths on the road each year.

The government is currently reviewing three options in terms of changes to the MoT system:

Option 1 – New cars to be put through an MoT at four years, and then an annual MoT thereafter.

Option 2 – New cars to be put through an MoT at four years, then a second test after two years, then annual testing thereafter.

Option 3 – New cars to be put through an MoT at four years, then three tests at every 2 years, followed by annual testing thereafter.

Despite the possible savings, it would appear that the majority of drivers would prefer to stick with the current rules surrounding the MoT, according to the AA. Edmund King, AA President said ‘We have surveyed 60,000 drivers and most of them think we should stick with the current regime. Rather than being a burden on the driver, we think it’s a good safety reminder for once a year”.

2nd Jul 2011 6:00am

kingofthesparks

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Location: Very close to Watford gap services , northants
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Re: New MOT Rules Ahead ???????

kingofthesparks wrote:

Despite the possible savings, it would appear that the majority of drivers would prefer to stick with the current rules surrounding the MoT, according to the AA. Edmund King, AA President said ‘We have surveyed 60,000 drivers and most of them think we should stick with the current regime. Rather than being a burden on the driver, we think it’s a good safety reminder for once a year”.

AA survey of 60,000 want to stick to current regime, who exactly did they ask

2nd Jul 2011 6:02am

mse

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Location: UK
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Re: New MOT Rules Ahead ???????

kingofthesparks wrote:
kingofthesparks wrote:

Despite the possible savings, it would appear that the majority of drivers would prefer to stick with the current rules surrounding the MoT, according to the AA. Edmund King, AA President said ‘We have surveyed 60,000 drivers and most of them think we should stick with the current regime. Rather than being a burden on the driver, we think it’s a good safety reminder for once a year”.

AA survey of 60,000 want to stick to current regime, who exactly did they ask

Exactly

On the one hand i would like annual but on the other i like the idea.

Especially new cars at 4yrs - i bet there isnt a manufacturer that fails the 1st MOT (especially as its under warranty) so 4yrs, 6yr 8yrs 10yrs then maybe annually? Mike

2nd Jul 2011 7:41am

kingofthesparks

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The thing is if people wanted there car checked each year nothing is stopping them, most owners of newer vehicles look after them and have them regularly serviced anyway, mot centres are unlikely to lose that much work as they can offer an annual inspection service.

Looks like the government trying to give an olive branch to motorists that have been hammered for years.

2nd Jul 2011 7:52am

BBSJK

Member Since: 12 Sep 2009
Location: Ledbury, Herefs
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I was suprised when I read the attached news earlier in the year how many cars (between 10 to 30%) fail their first MOT.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/opensecrets/201...eased.html

http://motfail.co.uk/

Most of the failures are due to things like lights, tyres, brakes etc

An argument for keeping the three year rule???

JK No the other left . . .

2nd Jul 2011 8:53am

parktag

Member Since: 30 Sep 2008
Location: Brittany
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The system works well here in France, i don't see what all the fuss is about. 130 crew cab
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2nd Jul 2011 1:38pm

mse

Member Since: 06 Apr 2008
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What system is that Mike

2nd Jul 2011 1:54pm

parktag

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First MOT after four years then every two years. 130 crew cab
98 V8 Disco

2nd Jul 2011 5:44pm

22900013A

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You see loads of newish cars with lamps out, who knows what else is wrong with them. 2011 110 USW
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2nd Jul 2011 5:55pm

kingofthesparks

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The whole idea of this change is to bring us in line with other european countries

2nd Jul 2011 6:15pm

mse

Member Since: 06 Apr 2008
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22900013A wrote:
You see loads of newish cars with lamps out, who knows what else is wrong with them.

The odd lamp out is just driver incompetance - but it can happen to anyone any time.

mechanically there should be little wrong, if its been serviced. Mike

2nd Jul 2011 8:11pm

22900013A

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Location: Oxfordshire
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mse wrote:
22900013A wrote:
You see loads of newish cars with lamps out, who knows what else is wrong with them.

The odd lamp out is just driver incompetance - but it can happen to anyone any time.

mechanically there should be little wrong, if its been serviced.

Thats what I was driving at, if the driver can't even check and fix bulbs, what else are they ignoring/havn't looked for? 2011 110 USW
1973 Series III 1-Ton
1972 Series III 1-Ton Cherrypicker
1969 IIA 1-Ton
1966 IIA 88"

2nd Jul 2011 8:14pm

mse

Member Since: 06 Apr 2008
Location: UK
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22900013A wrote:
mse wrote:
22900013A wrote:
You see loads of newish cars with lamps out, who knows what else is wrong with them.

The odd lamp out is just driver incompetance - but it can happen to anyone any time.

mechanically there should be little wrong, if its been serviced.

Thats what I was driving at, if the driver can't even check and fix bulbs, what else are they ignoring/havn't looked for?

Yeah but an MOT doesnt solve that an MOT is about as much use as a chocolate tea cup - you can still drive around with a fault for 364 days of the year and even then pass an MOT with some testers.

A good service, by a decent garage, will pick up the same defects an MOT - and cars generally are much more reliable than of old.

Same they cant apply the same thinking to speed limits. Mike

2nd Jul 2011 8:20pm

22900013A

Member Since: 23 Dec 2010
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mse wrote:
22900013A wrote:
mse wrote:
22900013A wrote:
You see loads of newish cars with lamps out, who knows what else is wrong with them.

The odd lamp out is just driver incompetance - but it can happen to anyone any time.

mechanically there should be little wrong, if its been serviced.

Thats what I was driving at, if the driver can't even check and fix bulbs, what else are they ignoring/havn't looked for?

Yeah but an MOT doesnt solve that an MOT is about as much use as a chocolate tea cup - you can still drive around with a fault for 364 days of the year and even then pass an MOT with some testers.

A good service, by a decent garage, will pick up the same defects an MOT - and cars generally are much more reliable than of old.

Same they cant apply the same thinking to speed limits.

Yep quite so. I'm personally glad they have introduced basic maintenance into the driving lessons/test, bulbs out is very annoying as it could cost me a shedload with my work, I have to check all the lights daily, and my trailer ones keep packing up

2011 110 USW
1973 Series III 1-Ton
1972 Series III 1-Ton Cherrypicker
1969 IIA 1-Ton
1966 IIA 88"

2nd Jul 2011 9:27pm

diesel_jim

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This same story seems to do the rounds every year or so.

3rd Jul 2011 2:20pm

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