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| Scotm Member Since: 28 Feb 2014 Location: Aberdeenshire Posts: 666   
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Had to double take I wasn't on the 1st Facebook Scout Group page for a minute.
I took scouts to Iceland and we just used local regulators and bottles while there. However that was on butane camping Gaz stoves. |
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11th Jul 2019 2:23pm |
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| grafty99 Member Since: 15 Aug 2012 Location: North Devon Posts: 4786  
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Filling LPG bottles at a fuel station Europe wide is frowned upon. They'll shut off the pumps if they catch you. It's not illegal but they don't like you doing it so don't rely on being able to refill.
As for the pressure, I doubt 7mbar will make a significant difference to the performance of the appliance but it is probably advisable to get the correct pressure if it isn't for personal use  2002 90 Td5 Station Wagon
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11th Jul 2019 2:30pm |
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| Keith5 Member Since: 27 May 2016 Location: Scotland Posts: 354 
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Definitely not Facebook, I trust opinions on here in a way I don't think I could with facebook.
Onwards with the internet research and phone calls to suppliers over there. Keith |
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11th Jul 2019 2:39pm |
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| miker Member Since: 13 Sep 2015 Location: Surrey Posts: 1763 
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They wont run quite as hot, but if they're anything like our butane burners, they spend most of their time at half anyway!
The urn may need the preheat button holding for slightly longer to get the heat into it. Mike |
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11th Jul 2019 3:02pm |
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| Keith5 Member Since: 27 May 2016 Location: Scotland Posts: 354
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Miker - that I could work with.
The main appliance that the camp cook wants to use is a No 5 field kitchen converted to Propane. I have found these which may be the answer to the problem, just need to be confident that the Butane nut fitting will match the "universal" threaded connection on the dutch gas bottles. https://gasproducts.co.uk/gas-regulators/p...r-roi.html Keith Keith |
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11th Jul 2019 3:09pm |
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| davew Member Since: 02 Jan 2012 Location: North Yorkshire Posts: 888  
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You could always fit a fixed bulkhead regulator on the trailer or whatever you're carrying the cooker in/on. These have replaced bottle mounted regulators in caravans/motorhomes etc... and you can buy a suitable pipe to connect between the regulator and the bottle. You can change between propane and butane just by changing the flexi pipe.
In our camper van, for example, I carry pipes to fit Calor propane and GAZ butane bottles so I can swap between them as needs/weather dictates, butane burning hotter than propane in "summer" conditions and propane for use when it gets colder and the butane doesn't want to come out of the cylinder. Might not be practical if the cooker isn't fixed to something but if it is... They all work at 30mBar as far as I know. http://www.yorkshireoffroadclub.net/ |
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11th Jul 2019 6:23pm |
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| Chopperone Member Since: 13 Nov 2016 Location: Derbyshire Posts: 396
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We use to run a No.5 stove converted to Calor which we ran off 47kg calor cylinders for at least 3 or 4 years.
( we do a lot of Hen & Stag parties.) Our regulator had a butterfly valve on it to fine tune the pressure- you might be able to find one of these. We use to spend hours sorting out guests who “ interefered “ with the controls. Guy May your life be like toilet paper ; long & useful. |
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12th Jul 2019 5:31am |
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| landy andy Member Since: 15 Feb 2009 Location: Ware, Herts Posts: 5729 
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As mentioned you can get a 37mbar bulkhead regulator then just have hoses (pig tails) to the bottles, like we do on motorhomes, but you would need the correct ends on the pig tails for the required bottle types
Don’t refill your Calor bottles. It can be done, but it’s not safe, as there is no 80% cutoff which is required for safety to allow the gas to expand should it be required. It’s also bad stuff to play with and ice burns are major. Home filled gas cylinders, childs event, and foreign country sounds like a bad combo. All your kit will work fine at 30mbar, just may be a bit less powerful/slower. You will get variations with bottled gas anyway due to heat, and altitude. 37mbar reg https://gasproducts.co.uk/gaslow-37-mbar-p...unted.html |
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12th Jul 2019 7:29am |
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