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| JOW240725 Member Since: 04 May 2015 Location: Suffolk Posts: 7907   
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I'm hoping they do a commercial from the start. James
MY2012 110 2.2TDCi XS SW Orkney Grey - http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic43410.html MY1990 110 200TDi SW beautifully faded Portofino Red - https://www.defender2.net/forum/post743641.html#743641 MY1984 90 V8 Slate Grey - https://www.defender2.net/forum/post744557.html#744557 Instagram @suffolk_rovers |
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2nd Jul 2019 3:01pm |
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| 22900013A Member Since: 23 Dec 2010 Location: Oxfordshire Posts: 3150 
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The ones I've seen in the UK aren't exactly slow either! 2011 110 USW
1973 Series III 1-Ton 1972 Series III 1-Ton Cherrypicker 1969 IIA 1-Ton 1966 IIA 88" |
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2nd Jul 2019 4:14pm |
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| Swine&Small Member Since: 20 Mar 2017 Location: Norfolk Posts: 1223
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Cannot even remember young, think it was coupled with foolish 
Prefer mature, especially as I have been here for a loooooong time  1983 Series 3 Pick up in Marine Blue
1967 Morris Traveller 1966 Morris Convertible 2012 VW T5 Camper Quod Abundat Non Obstat. |
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2nd Jul 2019 4:43pm |
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| LandRoverAnorak Member Since: 17 Jul 2011 Location: Surrey Posts: 11324
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At this rate, all they'll have left to reveal will be the lights
Darren
110 USW BUILD THREAD - EXPEDITION TRAILER - 200tdi 90 BUILD THREAD - SANKEY TRAILER - IG@landroveranorak "You came in that thing? You're braver than I thought!" - Princess Leia |
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2nd Jul 2019 5:00pm |
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| JAY BOY Member Since: 04 May 2010 Location: Not here Posts: 1706 
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After speaking to a dealer. All commercial vehicles will be special order. The new Defender is the new family car that can go anywhere. We will have to wait and seen a couple of months  |
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2nd Jul 2019 7:24pm |
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| seriesonenut Member Since: 19 Nov 2014 Location: Essex Posts: 1224
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All I can think is they are so worried about adverse reaction to the look of it they are drip feeding us all so when they pull back the curtain it will be an accepted for what it is. A D4 Replacement
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2010 XS USW (sold) 1957 Series One 88 diesel 1958 Series One 88 4x2 |
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2nd Jul 2019 8:13pm |
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| RDR Member Since: 27 Apr 2018 Location: Derbyshire Posts: 592
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The spy shots of the camo'd cars will be a managed public reaction exercise carefully planned by marketing and product teams. No doubt much of the real off road capability testing is done in hangars on specifically built tracks and scaffold structures. Not so sure the recent documents were leaked on purpose. Either way marketing will be meeting daily discussing everything reported and commented including what we are saying on this forum
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RR MY23 HSE PHEV D5 MY19 HSE - Now Sold D4 MY16 HSE Luxury - Now Sold D4 MY12 HSE - Gone D3 MY06 S - Gone but not forgotten |
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3rd Jul 2019 4:33am |
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| Ecco Member Since: 31 Oct 2015 Location: Kuala Lumpur Posts: 280  
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..pure hipster car..its really no different than anything out there, while pretend to be 'special'..based on these shots..its totally not..
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3rd Jul 2019 12:51pm |
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| diduan Member Since: 13 Oct 2016 Location: Central Balkan Posts: 260 
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Don't forget they toured the world with "BEST 4x4..." badge on it, so I expect they proove it when the car is released. Defender 110 SW MY2011 2.4tdci decat, no EGR
Jeep Wrangler YJ 1990 4.0. Front 78' Dana 60, Rear CUCV 14 bolt |
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3rd Jul 2019 1:08pm |
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| Slideywindows Member Since: 09 Sep 2016 Location: North Essex Posts: 1286 
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The Lego Defender looks better.
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3rd Jul 2019 8:10pm |
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| Fat Cog Member Since: 19 Mar 2012 Location: Oxfordshire & Devon Posts: 502 
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Like the look of the 90 & the aluminium chassis will save a fortune on rustproofing! Although my wife has told me I'm neither young, fun loving or due to having owned land Rovers since the 70's due to running costs I'm no longer affluent! Since 1973...S1, Air Portable's, Defender's, but only my Wolf TUL HS GS remains |
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3rd Jul 2019 9:10pm |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17458 
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Bearing in mind the number of issues forum members here are having with corrosion and perforation of aluminium alloy Defender body panels, I think you might be being a tad optimistic with your expectations of the chassis!
I think you can safely predict that chassis repairs will be vastly more difficult than on the last Defender. |
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3rd Jul 2019 10:20pm |
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| mikelike Member Since: 31 Aug 2011 Location: new zealand Posts: 108 |
Well JLR did admit that the new Defender is going to be a difficult launch !
Now I know why , this SUV will take sales from the Discovery , The young effluent type will own for a couple of years in warranty . And let's all admit that Discovery 5 has been an absolute disaster for JLR , Jerry should be relieved of duties immediately instead of the thousands of assembly employees , I bet Jerry gets paid more than them anyway . JLR has serious sustainability issues going forward , there business plan is a failure because they do not move the numbers of vehicles to recoup expenses and therefore this is leading to a very very serious affordability issue for new consumers . Disco 5 is no doubt a fine vehicle but the style is divisive and it is far too expensive , only bought by the young and effluent ? I cannot believe that Tata has not addressed these issues when India itself cold produce a traditional Defender / thar commercial rugged type of vehicle into their home market ! This new Defender is divisive like the Disco 5 , And will have the same core affordability issues , keeping consumers away in droves . . |
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4th Jul 2019 1:40am |
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| jav-uk Member Since: 29 Mar 2010 Location: Shropshire Posts: 112 
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Hi Everyone,
Not posted for ages but following this thread I wanted to chip in. Why am I so  off with all the hype and spy pics?
My 2014 MY 110 is a genuinely useful tool. We currently have lambs in the paddock and it's no problem putting a couple of them in the back if they need moving. I can hitch up almost any trailer without much hassle. As it qualifies for commercial vehicle status it is good for the P11d and the business. When the weather turns bad it can drag a fallen tree off our lane or pull a stuck vehicle out of the snow without the need for a tractor. tt usually saves the day and I can fix most issues when something is not right. (TBH I have found the late MY Defenders to be very reliable if you look after them). I don't relish a 300 mile motorway trip in it, but that's a job for the Audi TT. I just don't see how I would want to use the New Defender for any of the practical tasks above and probably a million other useful jobs you can all think of. It's a bit like Ford stopping Transit production and replacing it with an Smax. I know the new Defender will be a great car but the hype suggests it is not a replacement for the original Icon So... am I going to buy a new Defender P400 X First Edition, fully loaded, 0-60 in <6 secs, ~£85K to replace the Audi TT?  Paul
Pondering a New 90 Commercial 2020 Evoque * 2014 110 SW JE Stage 2. *2010 110 Utility. JE Stage 2. *2007 110 SW *2003 90 JE Stage 2. *2000 90 SW If its not leaking it ain't full. |
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4th Jul 2019 7:49am |
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