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| ericvv Member Since: 02 Jun 2011 Location: Near the Jet d'Eau Posts: 5816   
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I’ve had both remotes in the truck at times, also for longer trips. Never a problem and mine is also a 2009 model produced in August 2008, so must be the same ECU as the OP’s.
Eric You never actually own a Defender. You merely look after it for the next generation. http://youtu.be/yVRlSsJwD0o https://youtu.be/vmPr3oTHndg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GtzTT9Pdl0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABqKPz28e6A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLZ49Jce_n0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvAsz_ilQYU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8tMHiX9lSw https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dxwjPuHIV7I https://vimeo.com/201482507 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSixqL0iyHw |
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25th Mar 2019 8:05pm |
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| johnnyd Member Since: 13 Apr 2013 Location: Chippenham Posts: 1006  
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Have you got the Green Lucas AS10 unit circa 2008?
JD 2008 TDCi 2.4 XS CSW |
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25th Mar 2019 8:12pm |
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| ericvv Member Since: 02 Jun 2011 Location: Near the Jet d'Eau Posts: 5816
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Never seen it, but a Puma 2.4 of my production year/month probably yes. Believe it was replaced by a different unit only years later.
Eric You never actually own a Defender. You merely look after it for the next generation. http://youtu.be/yVRlSsJwD0o https://youtu.be/vmPr3oTHndg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GtzTT9Pdl0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABqKPz28e6A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLZ49Jce_n0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvAsz_ilQYU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8tMHiX9lSw https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dxwjPuHIV7I https://vimeo.com/201482507 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSixqL0iyHw |
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25th Mar 2019 9:02pm |
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| Thon Member Since: 22 Nov 2015 Location: Salisbury Plain Posts: 696
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I regularly have 2 sets of keys out with me, which are used alternately with other set in close proximity.
Other than the steering lock protector making the steering lock stick occasionally, no issues with starting it. I do commonly need to set and de-activate the alarm if I have left the vehicle open for half an hour without arming it, but apparently this is normal. |
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25th Mar 2019 9:57pm |
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| Martin Site Admin Member Since: 02 Apr 2007 Location: Hook Norton Posts: 6604 
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Temperature gauge up to full is what happens when the CAN bus from the ECU to the instrument pack drops out. Can be caused by either a connection issue or the ECU is failing to send the messages out on the bus as it should
Is it cranking OK speed-wise when it does this and "catching" at the normal time or not? Is your battery charged up and are the terminals tight? The fault codes you listed on Sunday are likely related to having the dash disconnected but may also be a sign that the fault with the connector inside the instrument pack is getting worse. Every time you get this no start is it cranking 4 times then stopping? PM replied to as well 
Martin  1988 90 Td5 NAS soft top
2015 D90 XS SW |
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26th Mar 2019 5:34pm |
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| johnnyd Member Since: 13 Apr 2013 Location: Chippenham Posts: 1006
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Hi Martin
Battery is new last year and terminals clean and tight The original non starting was always 4 cranks then kill, no fire.......but now like I say its taken on a new pattern of turns 2-3 times, temperature gauge tries to rise to full, turnover sort of dies then it all kicks into life after a definite hesitation, its not the same as the 4 turns then kill issue, I am just baffled. I am going to try and take it to a local place called G and D Vehicle services tomorrow, spoke to them on the phone this afternoon and they seems to know their stuff, they are ex landrover guys. Any clues most welcome..... OOI how much is a new ECU ? I can get the green 10AS repaired, but if its neither of those, I don't want to replace unnecessary parts..... JD 2008 TDCi 2.4 XS CSW |
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26th Mar 2019 6:14pm |
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| Martin Site Admin Member Since: 02 Apr 2007 Location: Hook Norton Posts: 6604
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Let us know how you get on today. A brand new engine ECU is about £500 but I think you get second hand ones - Pete Bell at BAS would be a source.
1988 90 Td5 NAS soft top
2015 D90 XS SW |
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27th Mar 2019 12:52pm |
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| dgardel Member Since: 30 Nov 2008 Location: Veneto (Heart & Head) Posts: 3586 
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could you PM to me also????  Discovery 5 td6 HSE Stornoway Gray Outback Engineering Limited Edition
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27th Mar 2019 3:52pm |
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| johnnyd Member Since: 13 Apr 2013 Location: Chippenham Posts: 1006
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OK the latest.....
Starts fine today, drove to the garage, he stuck his LR diags device on it, and the only fault showing was the immobiliser error because of the IPC bypass. No other issues reported and starts fine....... I dispair He has swapped the starter motor relay over for another one just in case, but we both didn't think it is that  2008 TDCi 2.4 XS CSW |
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27th Mar 2019 4:09pm |
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| Stacey007 Member Since: 25 Sep 2015 Location: Cheshire Posts: 3745
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Hello around ayear ago I had issues with mine, It would start fine, however
It would when your driving along just shut down everything, no engine, dials all zero and no power steering. I have a code reader plugged in all the time. No faults logged, It would go 2 months and do nothing then on one trio would do this twice..... Looked around on forums (and transit forums) people changing all sorts of parts.... I spoke to a house electrician friend and as no codes, the fault isn't getting to the ECU. 1) Swapped the starter relay and no change 2) Swapped the ignition barrel and wow, fixed I'm not saying it's that but maybe worth a look if on mine the contacts were worn and just for a split second it decides to give up everything went dead. Like you not great at 65 / 70 mph in the middle lane of a motorway family on board and you lose power passing an artic  |
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27th Mar 2019 4:23pm |
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| johnnyd Member Since: 13 Apr 2013 Location: Chippenham Posts: 1006
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Now that is REALLY interesting.......
I had the ignition barrel changed about 2 years ago, and the fault first appeared not long after that..... Why would a 'new' ignition barrel be the cause My symptoms are not like yours though, its purely a starting issue, it will never fail once started...... JD 2008 TDCi 2.4 XS CSW |
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27th Mar 2019 4:31pm |
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| Stacey007 Member Since: 25 Sep 2015 Location: Cheshire Posts: 3745
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Cheap fix to try another,
I was so happy when it fixed my issue. It was becoming a pain randomly cutting out. Even look at the wiring make sure its all plugged in correctly and tight, Hope it helps |
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28th Mar 2019 10:30am |
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| johnnyd Member Since: 13 Apr 2013 Location: Chippenham Posts: 1006
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So its a non starter again this morning after I removed the steering plastic surrounds to get at the ignition assembly, but after the first initial 4 turns then kill, subsequent attempts would not even turn the engine, I have had that before, but not as many times as this morning, any pointers there at all ?
I am going to remove the 10AS this afternoon and send it to Paul for repair/replace Does the coil around the ignition ever fail ? Is it just a coil or are there other components in it? can that coil proximity thing be disabled by a nano com at all? JD 2008 TDCi 2.4 XS CSW |
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29th Mar 2019 10:14am |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17353 
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Nanocom can be used to turn off the passive immobiliser. Generally doing so will greatly improve the reliability of starting, and this is certainly an essential step in diagnosing random failure-to-start faults.
On my Defender, if I operate the driver's side window whilst waiting for the glowplug light to go out the the engine will not start. If I turn off PI and do the same thing, it starts every time. Disabling the PI will stop the dialogue between the keyfob and the column coil, but does not stop the immobiliser from being engaged when the vehicle is locked or unlocked with the plip buttons. Consequently when you lock the car it is still immobilised. |
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29th Mar 2019 11:40am |
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