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| jaygti Member Since: 04 Nov 2012 Location: essex Posts: 378   
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I have 2โlift and Gwyn Lewis wide angle props , I still have to replace mine quite regularly. Doing one this afternoon in fact.
I have been told to take the prop off to grease it, so you can definitely get grease into all 4 cups. No idea if it works though. 2002 td5 90 county hardtop |
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9th Mar 2019 12:47pm |
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| jaygti Member Since: 04 Nov 2012 Location: essex Posts: 378
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 Click image to enlarge Took it off last week 2002 td5 90 county hardtop |
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9th Mar 2019 12:49pm |
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| bankz5152 Member Since: 02 Feb 2017 Location: South London/North Kent Posts: 2178 
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In a similar situation to yourself. Cranked rear arms but still got UJ failure at diff side, failure in less than 8 months.
Ive got a fair bit of movement in the gearbox mounts (which are due ti be replaced) which may have contributed but unsure. Instagram @defender_ventures Empire Tuning - Agent |
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9th Mar 2019 12:56pm |
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| kaney Member Since: 01 Oct 2018 Location: Bolton Posts: 232 
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Had to have my front one changed on friday as i drove to Harrogate from Bolton every time i let the revs off heard what sounded like a clunk like a bin lid closing then on the way home a mile away it shuddered and felt like i had a puncture on the front although the previous clunk was from the back i then pulled over and had a look under and the shinny sheared bolt on the u at the diff (rear) side was there right in front of me so after pulling it apart and holding up with zipp ties waited 4 hrs for the AA to take to the garage where the replacment sent by Paddocks arrived next day delivery and was fitted the day after along with greaseing both props
points i noticed before hand was a slight grinding but after having the wheels changed i thought it was something and nothing  and whilst after the fuel filter/pump in the tank refitted along with the fuel regulator and rocker gasket changed i should have asked to check the rest of the vehicle Back in 2 months for greasing again and a check on Diff oils etc |
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9th Mar 2019 2:33pm |
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| jaygti Member Since: 04 Nov 2012 Location: essex Posts: 378
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Swapped u/j this afternoon.
As usual 3 cups were fine one was dry as a bone. I greased the other end of the prop on the defender, and got grease out of two cups. When I took it off to change the other u/j I greased it again and got grease out of all four. So it seems that the best way sadly. 2002 td5 90 county hardtop |
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9th Mar 2019 6:05pm |
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| custom90 Member Since: 21 Jan 2010 Location: South West, England. Posts: 20446
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Only part I'm not keen on regularly removing this the nuts from the transfer box end front and rear because of the captive bolts.
Diff side if you needed to it I should much easier to replace the bolts if need be as well as the nuts. Not that you have to replace both but if you have a stubborn bolt the head can get roughed up. I would have thought if you secure the LR properly which is crucial if out of gear, handbrake off if on the rear then you could in-bolt the diff side. Tie the unbolted end up a little to take the weight and I would have thought you could manipulate the UJ's enough like that seeing as you can then rotate the prop freely and you have a fairly good angle you can manipulate it around as well. Mind you it is a right faff to do so whether you do this or remove it completely. In my case grease nipples being missing screwed my rear UJ, I'm pretty sure water got straight in. So don't forget to check they are all present if you do go greasing No Guts, No Glory. ๐ฌ๐ง๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ท๓ ฌ๓ ณ๓ ฟ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟ๐ฎ๐ช๐บ๐ธโฝ๏ธ๐ข๏ธโ๏ธ๐งฐ๐ช |
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9th Mar 2019 8:51pm |
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| 300TDi CSW Phil Member Since: 03 Apr 2016 Location: Bracknell Posts: 750 
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As no one has said that I desperately need wide angle props and as the existing ones don't bind up at any point I think I'm going to put new GKN or Hardy Spicer UJ's in the existing propshafts. As much as I like the look of the blue ones the cost is frankly scary. 1995 300 Tdi Epsom Green - It's a keeper.
Wide Track Sankey- In bits- Gone to a new home M0XQS |
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10th Mar 2019 6:43pm |
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| custom90 Member Since: 21 Jan 2010 Location: South West, England. Posts: 20446
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GKN on mine.
 No Guts, No Glory.
๐ฌ๐ง๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ท๓ ฌ๓ ณ๓ ฟ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟ๐ฎ๐ช๐บ๐ธโฝ๏ธ๐ข๏ธโ๏ธ๐งฐ๐ช |
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10th Mar 2019 7:16pm |
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| Retroanaconda Member Since: 04 Jan 2012 Location: Scotland Posts: 2656 
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Any lift means the joints and bearings are working harder, the same would apply to the blue ones although the bigger bearings means each is doing less movement for each oscillation. I had them and was less than impressed.
Make sure you get the proper GKN UJs with the metal seal caps and larger journals. If youโre paying less than about ยฃ20 for each then check again. |
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10th Mar 2019 8:42pm |
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| donmacn Member Since: 06 Nov 2017 Location: Nth Scotland Posts: 1845 
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^^^ What was your experience with the "blue ones" Retro? I had been wondering about getting one. Donald
1994 Defender 300Tdi 110 SW - owned since 2002 - 230k miles and going strong (The 'rolling restoration' or tinkering thread: http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic58538.html ) 2000 Range Rover P38 4.0L V8 in the past.. RR classic - fitted with 200Tdi 1984 RR classic - V8 with ZF auto box 1993 Discovery 300Tdi not to mention the minis and the Type 2 VW camper... |
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10th Mar 2019 11:05pm |
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| bankz5152 Member Since: 02 Feb 2017 Location: South London/North Kent Posts: 2178
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Same here. I just replaced the UJs with the type described above. Going to see how they run, if they fail again theres another issue causing thr failure. Instagram @defender_ventures
Empire Tuning - Agent |
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11th Mar 2019 5:49am |
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| 300TDi CSW Phil Member Since: 03 Apr 2016 Location: Bracknell Posts: 750
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New GKN heavy duty Universal Joints arrived today.
New vice is due to turn up tomorrow so I should have her fixed by the weekend. 1995 300 Tdi Epsom Green - It's a keeper.
Wide Track Sankey- In bits- Gone to a new home M0XQS |
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11th Mar 2019 5:20pm |
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| Retroanaconda Member Since: 04 Jan 2012 Location: Scotland Posts: 2656
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At the time I was using the vehicle off road every day, was doing a set of rear brake pads in a few months and UJs lasted about 10k. Vehicle cleaned and everything greased weekly. The blue ones lasted no better which led me to conclude that, for those not needing the wide angle function (i.e. no lift), they provide no benefit over standard. And the UJs were much more expensive to replace. |
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12th Mar 2019 6:23am |
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| jst Member Since: 14 Jan 2008 Location: Taunton Posts: 8051 
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the diff end does tend to go quicker as its at the rear of the vehicle and low down picking up all the grim off the roads.
a 2" lift but no dislocating should be fine with std props. Jack up so one rear wheel if off the ground and rotate the wheel in neutral to see if the prop does bind. i doubt it does but woth checking. binding props tend to damage the outer ring where the cup sits and you can see it. as above, wide angle props with the larger UJ jhelp distr the load but shouldnt be essential. check for wear in a frame bushes/joint and trailing arm bushes as something else could be contributing to the increased wear. Cheers James 110 2012 XS Utility 130 2011 M57 bespoke Camper 90 2010 Hardtop 90 M57 1988 Hardtop |
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12th Mar 2019 9:42am |
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