Quote:

Can someone explain why, if The Isle of Man has never been in the EEC or the EU and hasn't a hard border why are we all worried about Northern Ireland?

Joe the Plumber wrote:

I struggle to understand how democracy will be served by ignoring the result of a democratic referendum. If we had to vote again on everything once we were a few years down the line and knew a bit more, we'd never do anything.

But my opinion on an internet forum is completely unimportant, so I'll stick to a bit of plumbing and enjoying using my van!

Your right about the unimportant thing its all jibber jabberbut its what citizens (sorry subjects )do when stuff matters!Its not ignoring democracy by having more democracy in such an important issue..i waswatching the tv on the vote night when nigel thought he had lost was he going to accept the vote and put away his toys and start maintaining his hedge .....hell no! he was immediatly challenge the result in the courts .

I know this is going to fall on deaf ears but the vote was won by 2.1% ill say that again 2.1%. to change our countries destiny on 2.1%margin is maddness...When if you had the vote the following week whos to say the margin would be reversed.I guess the reason you dont want another vote is because of fey notions of destroying democracy but the cold hard truth that the public are now more informed and you lack the conviction of your message and think you would lose the vote! But your right nothing we do or say as individuals makes a jot of difference individually .......Has the price of solder gone up yet ?

ickle wrote:

I suppose all of this is so contentious because of the very narrow margin that swung us to leave. If the margin had been the other way, things would have carried on, you can call me Dave would still be in charge and we would be millions / billions better off already, due to not wasting the money all of this sh*t has caused.

Having another vote as suggested above every few years I think is called a general election, where false promises are made, outright lies are told and the media go into overdrive for a few months, but at least we can swap back in 5 years time.

There have been a few loaded and a couple of independant polls done, the sponsored ones show exactly what the sponsors wanted, the others just on ageing population - new voters attaining the vote and the older ones shuffling off this mortal existance would probably swing it the other way, if we had another vote now that would be democracy in action wouldn't it?

Mrs May is on an ego trip to be the PM in history who obeyed the people and pulled the UK out of the EU for good or bad, if she offers another vote and if we vote to remain, all her hard work over the last two years will be in vain and she wont even be a footnote in history.

Pickles wrote:

ickie, I agree with all that you say, except your last para with respect to the P.M.
I don't think she's on any "ego trip" at all. She was "dropped in at the deep end", and none of the issues that she faces are of her making. Replacing her, as some have suggested, including that lunatic Corbyn, would make absolutely no difference, and jeez, I really feel for you guys if Corbyn does ever get the job.
I'm no expert on Brexit, but I certainly would attach none of the current "confusion" to the P.M. In fact, I reckon she is displaying huge internal fortitude simply by staying in the job, where many would simply feel, "I don't need this" & resign. A very solid lady, IMHO.
Pickles.

/\ I agree

...and that Corbyn geezer. I remember some interview with him when he was asked about the police being armed......he suggested that might be dangerous. forgive me but isn't the whole idea of a gun is for it to be dangerous?
flamin nutter. and that woman he hangs around with that thought the police knocking bandits off mopeds was a bad idea
if Corbyn had an ounce of sense he'd get one of them 'dangerous' guns and shoot her

ickle wrote:

I never said she has done a bad job, what she’s negotiated is a compromise which is probably all we can expect when the country is so divided, but she fought for the job as pm to take the country out come hell or high water and she is on an ego trip.