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BTW Steve, Will there be a Salisbury Plain meet anytime soon? It would be good to meet up. Put a face to all the emojis and all that.

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Quoting links of the internet from any old source from any old bias editor wherever they maybe be in the world is not facts.
It’s widely known around the wood that the media will put a spin on anything possible.

Look at the snow we’ve had, you’d honestly think we’d had an earthquake with 100’s of deaths occur.
We’ve had snow before, more so last year even than now. And many many times more in the past.

A lot of people’s behaviour around is unusual to say the least too. Like grown men(?) going around with tights on and a hat with stars on etc etc.

Everyone can form their own conclusions to things..

It’s getting rather tiring now.

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It's off I'd be concerned what attire you may arrive in.

You can't reason with the unreasonable so I'm out.
By the way 3/4 of D2 is Leave so you are not achieving much, time and time again people have made claims here sensible ones and you have done nothing more than Trump is this, Trump is that and posting link after link of fake garble.

You don't respect others views as if you did you would respect democracy, democracy is the foundation of our society.

No wonder most people who were trying to discuss sensible things ended up abandoning the thread.

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The EU, taken as a whole is the UK’s largest trading partner. In 2017, UK exports to the EU were £274 billion (44% of all UK exports). UK imports from the EU were £341 billion (53% of all UK imports).
The share of UK exports accounted for by the EU has fallen over time from 55% in 2006 to 43% in 2016, increasing slightly to 44% in 2017.
The share of UK imports accounted for by the EU fell from 58% in 2002 to 51% in 2011 before increasing to 53% in 2017.
The UK had an overall trade deficit of -£67 billion with the EU in 2017. A surplus of £28 billion on trade in services was outweighed by a deficit of -£95 billion on trade in goods.
The UK had a trade surplus of £41 billion with non-EU countries. A surplus of £83 billion on trade in services outweighed a deficit of -£42 billion on trade in goods.
Services accounted for 40% of the UK’s exports to the EU in 2017. Financial services and other business services (a category which includes legal, accounting, advertising, research and development, architectural, engineering and other professional and technical services) are important categories of services exports to the EU – in 2017 these two service categories made up 52% of UK service exports to the EU.
Wales, followed by the North East of England had the highest percentage of goods exports going to the EU of all the countries and regions in the UK in 2017. The East of England followed by Northern Ireland had the joint highest proportion of goods imports from the EU.
EU tariffs are generally low but are high on some goods, especially agricultural products.

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Zed wrote:

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Zed wrote:

There will always be difficulties discussing Mr Trump in a civilised environment because his extremist views provoke a reaction.

Can you give me some examples of extremist views President Trump has?

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/0...mp;gwt=pay

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/don...60bf777e83

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/a...82736.html

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/11/mi...t-language

Those really aren't views you listed but the overall theme from the articles is that Trump is racist. It's really no surprise as this is the tried and true fallback attack of the left In America. Never mind Trump has had many close back friends over the years and had a good relationship with two prominent civit rights/politcal black figures, Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson. Donated to their causes, helped Al Sharptons mistress get a hotel because she couldnt find a place. How politically convenient that Trumps obvious racist views would all of a sudden come out in 2015/2016 when running against a democrat!

Trump is such a racist that longtime friend and pro football player Hershal Walker took Trumps kids to stay with his family while Trump was going through divorce. Trump is such a racist that his election garnered more black votes that 2 previous Republican presidential candidates and garnered more latino votes than Mitt Romneys election. Democrat leaning, pro Hillary Latino actor and comedian George Lopez said in an interview with MSNBC, that he didnt believe Trump was racist.

I could go on and on but at the end of the day you're going to believe what you want and select news to validate your bias. The most unbiased way to get a clear picture of Trump on the topic is to examine coverage of him before his run for office. It's clear hes at least racially insensitive. He wasnt born in an era where you couldnt criticize people of color or muslims or gays etc. You guys on the left live by that religion, not us.

What makes you so special fella?as you appear to be immune from the almighty meja?

I am an individual, born free in one of the greatest countries on the planet.

No fella what makes you special!

I just told you. Born free in one of the greatest countries men and women have died and bled to establish. It is my duty as an American to preserve it for my children and his children.

No fella what makes you special and immune to the meja? ...all you reply with is your a free american wlell there are 250 million plus americans and according you many are being duped by the leftish mejia..i will try once more ..what makes larealus so special?Do you have a tin foil hat?or cloak?
We could just ignore politics and try to focus on defenders......well i am at an age sadly where the defender wins



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Zed wrote:

Here's the thing. In response to some of the more outlandish comments on this thread I've voiced a different opinion and backed it up with fact based evidence.
It is not my intention to try and change anybody elses mind. Far from it. Quite honestly I couldn't give a monkey's what anyone else on here thinks. I've just provided an alternative view with actual facts.

For the record, some on here have said they don't care about the risks of Brexit as they believe it's a price worth paying. Although I disagree with that POV I do completely respect it. However to deny there won't be detrimental consequences is pure fantasy. It's already happening and we haven't even left yet. The pound has tanked, investment has stalled, hundreds of billions of pounds have been shifted abroad and many companies have already packed their bags.

Sadly a minority have chosen to ignore facts, argue semantics or give an opinion only backed up by snidey insults and smilies. Well crack on, that's obviously your prerogative but it is very telling indeed.