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Naks Member Since: 27 Jan 2009 Location: Stellenbosch, ZA Posts: 2638 |
CTIS definitely wins my vote!
Click image to enlarge https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/futu...nder-info/ -- 2010 Defender Puma 90 + BAS remap + Alive IC + Slickshift + Ashcroft ATB rear 2015 Range Rover Sport V8 Supercharged Defender Puma Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zZ1en9 Discovery 4 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zXrtKO Range Rover/Sport L320/L322/L494 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zc58JQ |
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5th Dec 2018 12:05pm |
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Zed Member Since: 07 Oct 2017 Location: In the woods Posts: 3287 |
Obviously a lot of guesswork in that article but interesting none the less. Thanks for posting.
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5th Dec 2018 12:54pm |
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AndrewS Member Since: 10 Apr 2007 Location: Hereford Posts: 3707 |
Fill yer boots
https://patents.google.com/?assignee=land+rover&oq=land+rover https://patents.google.com/?assignee=land+...p;sort=new 130's have feeling's as well you know |
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5th Dec 2018 2:39pm |
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Ramajama Member Since: 28 Jul 2016 Location: Heartland, ‘Murica Posts: 109 |
OMG, TOO MUCH TECH!
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6th Dec 2018 3:54am |
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Naks Member Since: 27 Jan 2009 Location: Stellenbosch, ZA Posts: 2638 |
OMG, yes, too much tech!
We should all just go back to horse-drawn carriages -- 2010 Defender Puma 90 + BAS remap + Alive IC + Slickshift + Ashcroft ATB rear 2015 Range Rover Sport V8 Supercharged Defender Puma Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zZ1en9 Discovery 4 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zXrtKO Range Rover/Sport L320/L322/L494 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zc58JQ |
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6th Dec 2018 6:13am |
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Ramajama Member Since: 28 Jul 2016 Location: Heartland, ‘Murica Posts: 109 |
LOL! Let’s not get ridiculous here. My point is..the more gimmicks they put in these things (Ill admit, I personally love the gimmicks and have no wish to go backwards) makes them unsustainable over time and more and more disposable. They are making them harder for people to own long term keepers. Personally, Ive just conceded to the fact that my family will continue to upgrade cars every 36 months or so and leasing will most likely be the norm for at least one of our vehicles. No horse-drawn carriages for this family, unless I’m renting out a 15 minute carriage ride in old-town....but the way car companies are in a frantic race to out gimmick each other as quickly as possible, I feel a bit bad for people who cant really swing a new car every 3 years...or even 5 years. Oh well. People will either keep buying up new cars or they’ll figure out ways to keep these “technological wonders” on the road with all systems functioning. Interesting times we live in. |
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6th Dec 2018 2:49pm |
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Naks Member Since: 27 Jan 2009 Location: Stellenbosch, ZA Posts: 2638 |
I bought my Puma in Feb 2010, brand new.
In the almost 9 years that I've had it, ALL of the issues have been mechanical: front axle bent from factory, rear diff, clutch (replaced 3 or 4 times), gearbox output shaft, clutch slave cylinder, etc. So yeah, none of the tech has actually every gone wrong on any of my landys since 2008, always mechanical. so bring on the tech I say -- 2010 Defender Puma 90 + BAS remap + Alive IC + Slickshift + Ashcroft ATB rear 2015 Range Rover Sport V8 Supercharged Defender Puma Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zZ1en9 Discovery 4 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zXrtKO Range Rover/Sport L320/L322/L494 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zc58JQ |
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6th Dec 2018 3:12pm |
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mk1collector Member Since: 17 Sep 2009 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 6769 |
I didn’t think there was any “tech” in a 2010 defender? Ray
My build thread http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic17615.html |
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6th Dec 2018 3:46pm |
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Naks Member Since: 27 Jan 2009 Location: Stellenbosch, ZA Posts: 2638 |
well, it has an ECU, ABS/TC, various sensors, etc., all controlled by software - so yes, there is some tech.
the fact that you didn't think there was any tech kinda proves my point: tech is so ubiquitous now that you really don't have to think about it -- 2010 Defender Puma 90 + BAS remap + Alive IC + Slickshift + Ashcroft ATB rear 2015 Range Rover Sport V8 Supercharged Defender Puma Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zZ1en9 Discovery 4 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zXrtKO Range Rover/Sport L320/L322/L494 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zc58JQ |
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6th Dec 2018 6:47pm |
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OsloBlue Member Since: 14 Jul 2018 Location: Essex Posts: 822 |
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6th Dec 2018 8:09pm |
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22900013A Member Since: 23 Dec 2010 Location: Oxfordshire Posts: 3149 |
I saw a SWB station wagon on test near Banbury a few days ago. Proportionally quite different to a 90, didn't look quite so much like a Discovery as I had thought. I noticed the top half tapers in quite steeply though, its a long way off vertical. Seemed longer than a previous 90 but still quite narrow. 2011 110 USW
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13th Dec 2018 3:47pm |
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Ramajama Member Since: 28 Jul 2016 Location: Heartland, ‘Murica Posts: 109 |
Ya, the HVAC stopped working in the middle of our ski trip, making it a life threatening situation with ice on the inside of our vehicle. Only way to fix is reflash the computer. Yep, bring on the tech..... 2018 RAM Power Wagon (American Muscle) 2003 Land Rover Discovery II HSE 7 (Still deciding on its role) 2004 Land Rover Discovery II SE (British Steel...& aluminum) 2015 Land Rover Discovery Sport HSE Lux (Soccer Mom car) |
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14th Dec 2018 12:30am |
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Wild Card 90 Member Since: 03 Dec 2014 Location: Gerlingen Posts: 1060 |
I don´t for a moment believe that live axles and ladder frame chassis are relevant for the new Defender.
The old school mechanical components in those live axles (swivels, halfshafts, differential) wear out alarming quickly, if used for any serious off roading. Technology controlled independant axles do not fight each other in the manner that two live axles connected with a locked centre diff do. However, whatever technology it uses, has to be thoroughly sorted and reliable, Drivetrain components need to be robust, well protected and easy to maintain. Electronics need to grouped and isolated from one another, simplified and logically positioned to make it easy to identify and repair. Minor issues shouldn´t be capable of restricting the basic function of the vehicle. This is all common practice in competition vehicles, and only needs to be industrialised for production. If they could just keep their hands off the gimmicks and gismos that few asked for and even fewer need, Land Rover would be well on the way to creating a vehicle that delivers what its history and appearance promises. 1998 Tdi 90 SW, 2008 Td4 90 SW, 2012 2.2 90 SW, 2" raised Trailmaster/Terrafirma Heavy Track Raids, 255 MTs, Recaro CSs, anorak, wellingtons Last edited by Wild Card 90 on 14th Dec 2018 6:45pm. Edited 1 time in total |
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14th Dec 2018 7:15am |
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Markez79 Member Since: 27 Jun 2018 Location: South West Posts: 201 |
Well said
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14th Dec 2018 8:32am |
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