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| chalky Member Since: 09 May 2008 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 483   
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JLR have moved far too slow on this in an attempt to mass produce everything in their range to cater for mass demand over seas, Not sure who put it above but the boat has sailed, the demand has slowed down as trends shift towards other must haves like exotic holiday locations and dare I say it.... bricks and mortar.
All manufactureres have seen a huge slowing in sales, there are fields all over the U.K. full of JLR products, they haven’t enough room to store what they’ve produced so production has slowed right down. I personally feel JLR have tried too hard to procure a new customer base and found easy pickings but the Germans have fought back, people cannot he expected to take the amount of crap that JLR throw at their customers, that doesn’t entice buyers who buy solely on what they want to be seen in, what goes on Instagram and face book, the LR buyers I know or used to know were hard working types who required a vehicle to fit a specific task, many of my mates serving and ex forces had a natural affinity to the product and not used to sit outside the hairdressers on a Friday, that’s what Merc’s And BMW’s were for. Diesels have had a real hard time of it since the VW emissions scandal, Braexit plays its part in the uncertainty, DEFENDER has gotten LR out of the mire already, I feel a lot could be either won or lost on the flip of this coin. I’m currently driving a D5 with all the bells and whistles, including the early service fiasco, the way that it’s been handled has turned my stomach, my alliegence swings on this new product. I’m keeping my fingers crossed but I’m not holding my breath. DEFENDER XS CSW 08 TONGA GREEN |
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10th Oct 2018 8:24am |
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| jeffersj Member Since: 23 Jan 2015 Location: Near Preston Posts: 431 
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I knew I had seen something like this before.
 Jeff
Ex 1968 Series 2A Ex 90 TD5 Ex D3 Ex D4 |
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10th Oct 2018 9:06am |
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| Martin Site Admin Member Since: 02 Apr 2007 Location: Hook Norton Posts: 6611 
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Right, back to normality
 1988 90 Td5 NAS soft top
2015 D90 XS SW |
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10th Oct 2018 1:51pm |
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| milesr3 Member Since: 12 Feb 2013 Location: Suffolk Posts: 873 
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Thought I'd accidentally logged into Pistonheads...
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10th Oct 2018 2:52pm |
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| AndrewS Member Since: 10 Apr 2007 Location: Hereford Posts: 3708 
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 130's have feeling's as well you know  |
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10th Oct 2018 3:42pm |
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| Slideywindows Member Since: 09 Sep 2016 Location: North Essex Posts: 1283 
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Strange how things come full circle.
In 1948 when Rover could hardly sell any of their "Bank Manager's" cars, they quickly made a cheap utility truck that buyers needed (note "needed" not "wanted") all over the world. It was soon outselling their cars. Now JLR are having difficulty selling their "aspirational" cars, they need a cheap utility vehicle that could sell all over the world. Have they managed to get it all wrong? We shall see...... |
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10th Oct 2018 7:39pm |
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| custom90 Member Since: 21 Jan 2010 Location: South West, England. Posts: 20447
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^^^^ This. No Guts, No Glory.
🇬🇧🏴🏴🏴🇮🇪🇺🇸⛽️🛢️⚙️🧰💪 |
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10th Oct 2018 7:46pm |
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| seriesonenut Member Since: 19 Nov 2014 Location: Essex Posts: 1215
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I think you have hit the nail on the head there Charles. Forget your origins at your peril! 1984 One-Ten CSW
2010 XS USW (sold) 1957 Series One 88 diesel 1958 Series One 88 4x2 |
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10th Oct 2018 7:54pm |
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| milesr3 Member Since: 12 Feb 2013 Location: Suffolk Posts: 873
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L663 PHEV talk:
https://www.motorauthority.com/news/111931...-in-hybrid |
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12th Oct 2018 4:50pm |
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| AndrewS Member Since: 10 Apr 2007 Location: Hereford Posts: 3708
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Spotted the Defender Mule this morning heading West from Ombersley on the Holt Fleet Rd. Driver was sat lower than us, we were in a 110, vehicle size was between a Disco and Disco Sport
 130's have feeling's as well you know |
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16th Oct 2018 8:32am |
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| chalky Member Since: 09 May 2008 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 483
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I saw it last week near the Hogs Back, And reminisced briefly about my time in the Army thundering round Hankley Common in a One Ten V8.....
I must admit to paying very little to absolutely no attention to it what so ever, whilst thinking I’m having one of them, which has got me to where I am to day, my 90 XS bought new in 08 that was constantly in limp home mode very time it went up a hill, Disco Sport bought new in 2015 that worked ok until I drove it out of the dealers and just developed a mind of its own which was also rejected. And my D5 again bought new in March this year that has had 3 Oil changes in 7K miles due to a none existent problem with Oil dilution, that isn’t a problem apparently. I did have a D3 from 08 to 2015 which was by far the best car I’ve ever owned, so it’s not all bad. DEFENDER XS CSW 08 TONGA GREEN |
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16th Oct 2018 9:00am |
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| Ramajama Member Since: 28 Jul 2016 Location: Heartland, ‘Murica Posts: 109 
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That size description sounds about what I was hoping for. Sounds Wrangler-ish in size. |
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17th Oct 2018 2:10pm |
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| Naks Member Since: 27 Jan 2009 Location: Stellenbosch, ZA Posts: 2645  
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video footage of the new 110: https://www.instagram.com/p/BrBNRHHDoqk/ --
2010 Defender Puma 90 + BAS remap + Alive IC + Slickshift + Ashcroft ATB rear 2015 Range Rover Sport V8 Supercharged
Defender Puma Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zZ1en9 Discovery 4 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zXrtKO Range Rover/Sport L320/L322/L494 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zc58JQ |
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7th Dec 2018 6:13am |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17446 
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If that's a,public road, why is it hogging Lane 2 on an empty road?
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7th Dec 2018 6:55am |
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