Grenadier wrote:

And why does the BBC insist on calling ISIS “so-called Islamic State”? They’re not ‘so-called’, that’s what they’ve named themselves. No different to any other club, country, brand, religious or political name. It’s not as if there is another Islamic State out there that might sue the Beeb. So why persist? Or why reserve it to ISIS? Why not ‘so-called Facebook’ or ‘so-called Manchester United’. We might not like them nor agree with their policies, but their little club have called themselves ISIS/ISIL, there’s nothing so called about it.

By calling them the ' so called Islamic State ' you are not recognising their claim to be ' the Islamic State ' because such a place doesn't exist.

Their values towards life and living have nothing to do with Islam or it's people. They use the name ' Islamic State ' to define who they are, but it's utter to use a historical religion as their means to spread their hatred against everyone ( including Muslims ) other than themselves.

^I tend to disagree, i've worked across the middle east and can confirm that the majority of muslims in those places sympathize with the daesh on some level, and most of the resistance to the daesh comes from either different sects or cultures.

Those leading the resistance are christian Lebanese, hezbollah (shia), Shia iraqi clans & tribes, Shia iran, and ethnic kurds ect.

Meanwhile Saudi arabia did all in iraq, Syria? sure but they have selectively targeted ISIS allied groups and not isis itself. Meanwhile in iraq they were willing to let them go round killing everyone not sunni.

As a westerner i was even dragged to public displays like lashings and dismemberments

Grenadier wrote:

And why do so many articles now start with the lines ‘Ten things you never knew about...’ or ‘Ten reasons why you should never...’ etc etc? Given the attention span of the youths writing this pap, I’m amazed they can stay focused to ‘ten’ points or observations about anything, let alone write about them and attach a photo.

And why does the BBC insist on calling ISIS “so-called Islamic State”? They’re not ‘so-called’, that’s what they’ve named themselves. No different to any other club, country, brand, religious or political name. It’s not as if there is another Islamic State out there that might sue the Beeb. So why persist? Or why reserve it to ISIS? Why not ‘so-called Facebook’ or ‘so-called Manchester United’. We might not like them nor agree with their policies, but their little club have called themselves ISIS/ISIL, there’s nothing so called about it.

Rashers wrote:

They were the cast of ‘The only way is Essex’ doing a personal appearance in the Shopping Centre.

I grew up in brentwood "oh shu' up". My mate was even hit by joey essex in his car, he ended up settling out of court and getting a fair bit of money out of it.

Most of the pricks on that show aren't even from essex, they're trust fund yuppies who happened to attend bentwood private.

When people used to say essex, people used to think of narcobarons, ross kemp, darts and snooker. Now they think of a bunch of rich tossers who can't even use common sense because they thought school was a popularity contest and not a place of education. I'm on IG: https://www.instagram.com/osloblue42/
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keef9t wrote:

Just been watching Last night at the Proms. Loads of "Prommers" waving EU flags during 'Rule Britannia', 'Land of Hope and Glory' etc. What's that all about.

keef9t wrote:

Just been watching Last night at the Proms. Loads of "Prommers" waving EU flags during 'Rule Britannia', 'Land of Hope and Glory' etc. What's that all about.

Probably been bought in a sale. EU flags being flogged off cheap before next March.

It seems that Jake Humphrey (ex BBC F1 presenter and local to my neck of the woods celebrity) wants another vote because he isn't getting what he thought he was going to get when he voted to leave.

Why his opinion matters is beyond me, but our local rag, the Eastern Daily Press, seems to think that his opinion is important to all of us here in the east.

Delia Smith (bless her) has the same effect as does Caroline Flack who only has to cough (I was going to say something else, but decided, it is Sunday today) and we have to hear all about it. I believe she comes from round here as well - even if Delia does live in Suffolk. Luckily, neither of these people have given their opinion to the Eastern Daily Press on how they voted or whether they would like a second go which I respect.

The one Celebrity we do have, home grown to Norfolk, is Olivia Colman the actress - and no one round here seems to care? What an absolute national treasure Mind you, she lives in London now possibly because she can't face the A11/M11.

Zed wrote:

keef9t wrote:

Just been watching Last night at the Proms. Loads of "Prommers" waving EU flags during 'Rule Britannia', 'Land of Hope and Glory' etc. What's that all about.

Obviously there are exceptions but breakdowns after the vote showed that it was mainly Far Left and Right-wing, working class that voted for brexit while centrist, middle class generally voted remain.


My guess is the main demographic that voted remain is much the same that attends the prom.

^ not necessarily zed mate

I consult for Upmarket construction and specialist engineering, recently involved in townhouses with a £1.3m sale value (half of which were for social leases no offence, but what the , who needs a £1.3m worth of house subsidised by the council?) anyway when we completed we did a demonstration, This is how you use this, this is how much work ect, for local residents.

Anyway someone spurs up with question of "how much?" and their jaws hit the floor, someone even shouted "are you ****ing serious?". One person accused it of being elitist and being built for people "like You, with money" (me), alright i'm well spoken but my family was so poor we never went on holiday, we were lucky for a day trip to a free museum. Even being a journeyman professional i still can't afford my own property (probably because i spend it all on Lucinda).

Anyway ran into one of the viewers a week after, she tells me she had her house valued at £1.2m, pretty standard house for the area, nothing in it though, driving round there all i See are "vote remain" or "vote labour". I don't think people really understand their net worth by assessing the value of their property. i Should say this area could be called deprived, low income and high crime.

i know for a fact that for people my age, say 18-25 year olds, it came down to this one main division. Did you go to university or did you go out and get a job or apprenticeship?

Those who worked almost always voted leave, and those that went uni almost always voted stay. It doesn't help that those who went uni get bleeding heart syndrome because they've got their head in the clouds and don't actually speak to someone that works for a living and get all offended.

After the vote i was intimidated by someone i went to school with because she got upset and didn't understand why someone young would "spite their own future" and that i was racist. That was pretty bad actually i think i might share the whole story with you guys, because i think that a major problem with politics these days is that people only socialise within their own groups so do not get exposed to others ideas so get extremely upset when someone doesn't agree with them. I'm on IG: https://www.instagram.com/osloblue42/
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Those who worked almost always voted leave, and those that went uni almost always voted stay. It doesn't help that those who went uni get bleeding heart syndrome because they've got their head in the clouds and don't actually speak to someone that works for a living and get all offended.

I have another theory, those that voted leave tend to red the tabloids and listen to social media and fell for the .

Those that voted stay couldn't give a rats arse what happens.

OsloBlue wrote:

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so do not get exposed to others ideas so get extremely upset when someone doesn't agree with them.

Ever tried disagreeing with a self-labelled "liberal?"

Sweden, a more naturally socialist country than most is, apparently going to vote for more "far right" MP's according to the Beeb News tonight.

For BBC's "far right" read "not the leftist squirearchy" that assumes it has a right to rule.

As a clear demonstration of how catastrophically wrong the intellectual establishment have been in allowing the colonisation of Europe, Swedish voters going right-wing ought to make them sit up and listen.

But they won't.

Badger110 wrote:

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Those who worked almost always voted leave, and those that went uni almost always voted stay. It doesn't help that those who went uni get bleeding heart syndrome because they've got their head in the clouds and don't actually speak to someone that works for a living and get all offended.

I have another theory, those that voted leave tend to red the tabloids and listen to social media and fell for the .

Those that voted stay couldn't give a rats arse what happens.

I have another-another theory.... those that "slate" those that voted leave just seem to spout rubbish like "leavers read the tabloids and listen to social media"
It's almost like because you didn't get the result you wanted you have to put everyone else down.