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Darcy Fairfax



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BogMonster



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VVS210 wrote:
Anyone else starting to wonder whether the new Defender is actually just an urban myth & Land Rover have no intention at all of making one??


For about five years.

milesr3 wrote:
AndrewS wrote:
Word on the street is there is a body design issue that could push dates back. Banging Head Banging Head


It doesn't let enough water in?


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Post #728739 13th Sep 2018 10:07am
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simon67



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AndrewS wrote:
Makes me laugh they say they want to get it right and the new Defender will be better than the out going model. Shame they didnt have the same mind set with the Discovery 4 replacement.


Saw one this morning, and it is the ugliest car going
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AndrewS



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Got one sat on the drive (facing the house). 130's have feeling's as well you know Smile
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Fat Cog



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AndrewS wrote:
Got one sat on the drive (facing the house).


Well AndrewS...this made me laugh out loud, my wife has just enquired what I could find funny on a "sad Land Rover forum"!!! Since 1973...S1, Air Portable's, Defender's, but only my Wolf TUL HS GS remains
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simon67



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AndrewS wrote:
Got one sat on the drive (facing the house).


You certainly don't look at the back of it
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OsloBlue



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I heard from a little birdy that it will be at least 2020 until the new defender is released.

The reason i heard was Euro7 is going to balls up the majority of Euro6 cars mainly down to revs because of poor Aerodynamics and high weight.

LR is supposedly Waiting on Euro7 compliant engines or Brexit to overturn the regulations before committing. But Apparently The defender or its replacement will have airbags and chassis crumple zones.

Apparently they';re going to have trouble getting the disco and the RRs to pass (because of the weight) on current engines and are ramping down production on standard power plants and supplanting with PEVs and hybrids. (to be fair i'd love to see a hybrid 90 with a 1L fox engine)

According to the same source there is a rumour among JLR that the Disco is threatened to be dropped because its competing with RR products which they make better margins on, and want to streamline production but the only reason this hasn't happened is because everything will then be under the Range rover brand. I'm on IG: https://www.instagram.com/osloblue42/
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Post #731729 28th Sep 2018 6:59pm
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Bluest



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I can see what you are saying, but a lot of that doesn’t stack up for me.

Brexit - Whatever happens, Euro 7 emissions won’t be affected. They come in for Europe and other territories that use that standard such as Oz. There is zero chance we won’t adopt that standard too in my view. The key issue on Brexit will be where they decide to build stuff.

Also Euro 7 is not a surprise, they’ve got plenty of notice and if diesels don’t work in big cars they’ll just switch back to petrol and make everything hybrid. Europe has too much to lose by introducing a standard the car industry can’t acjieve. It’ll be the same boat for anyone making big cars so LR aren’t alone.

If indeed Discos are cannibalising RR sales all they’ve got to do is take it a bit down market and leave the uber luxury and tech to RR with a delayed trickle down to LR. VAG are masters of selling the same stuff at all different price so it can be done.

Having said all that, I agree we won’t see the new Def until 2020 Very Happy 2007 110 TDCi Station Wagon XS
Post #731740 28th Sep 2018 7:29pm
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