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Td5Cam

Member Since: 09 Apr 2016
Location: Somerset
Posts: 32

TD5 Non Start

Hello,

Sorry for what may seem another non start issue, however after searching thread after thread i cant find any similar symptoms (other than it wont start)

Long story short, my landy stalled in gear and when trying to re-start it there was nothing. Only lights on dash are amber ecu lamp, coil light and fog light, had no other warning lamps on with ignition at position II. Managed to push start it and got it home, but have since not been able to get the problem solved. I have done the following;

Replaced starter motor
Replaced Battery
Replaced ignition switch
Checked all feeds including starter relay and there appears to be a good feed of power everywhere
Checked fly wire on starter and is getting a feed

Hoping someone can guide me on where to look next.

Many thanks

28th Aug 2018 7:05pm

bankz5152

Member Since: 02 Feb 2017
Location: South London/North Kent
Posts: 2166

Tried the inertia switch? Instagram @defender_ventures
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28th Aug 2018 7:26pm

Td5Cam

Member Since: 09 Apr 2016
Location: Somerset
Posts: 32

I havent no, do i need to just press the switch or check the current through it?

28th Aug 2018 7:38pm

bankz5152

Member Since: 02 Feb 2017
Location: South London/North Kent
Posts: 2166

Just push it down. Should be it Instagram @defender_ventures
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28th Aug 2018 7:51pm

Td5Cam

Member Since: 09 Apr 2016
Location: Somerset
Posts: 32

Will give it a try tomorrow, thanks

28th Aug 2018 7:58pm

stigomery

Member Since: 10 May 2016
Location: Cambridge
Posts: 277

When you say it won’t start, you mean it won’t fire or the engine doesn’t even turn over?

You say you replaced the starter motor, new? The solenoid is operating correctly?

28th Aug 2018 9:28pm

grafty99

Member Since: 15 Aug 2012
Location: North Devon
Posts: 4785

Sounds like a bad gearbox or transfer box earth to me. I'd be checking all earths and battery connections

Definately try the inertia switch too as above

2002 90 Td5 Station Wagon
1990 Vogue SE
Triumph Tiger Explorer 1200
Td5 90 Thread http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic50767.html
Tdi 110 Thread https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic69562.html
RRC Thread http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic54492.html
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28th Aug 2018 9:51pm

Td5Cam

Member Since: 09 Apr 2016
Location: Somerset
Posts: 32

Doesnt turn over, as if there is no power, but there is as there is as have checked the voltage and current from the ignition switch right through to the starter and there is a cirrent going right through.

When i turn key to point II on the switch the dash doesnt bring up any of the normal warning lights e.g. battery, oil etc, i just have the amber coil light and eml and a fog warning light, turn the key further and there is just nothing, i can hear the starter relay click and as said above i know its putting current across the circuit.

Have checked the earth and nothing seems to be lose or corroded and the connections at the battery appear in good order.

Brand new starter and brand new battery.

29th Aug 2018 5:52am

grafty99

Member Since: 15 Aug 2012
Location: North Devon
Posts: 4785

I'd definately be checking earths straps.... 2002 90 Td5 Station Wagon
1990 Vogue SE
Triumph Tiger Explorer 1200
Td5 90 Thread http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic50767.html
Tdi 110 Thread https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic69562.html
RRC Thread http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic54492.html
Instagram http://www.instagram.com/george_grafton

29th Aug 2018 6:02am

Td5Cam

Member Since: 09 Apr 2016
Location: Somerset
Posts: 32

Ok will give them another look over once checked inertia switch.

29th Aug 2018 7:30am

grafty99

Member Since: 15 Aug 2012
Location: North Devon
Posts: 4785

When the inertia switch is tripped, generally, you don't get glow plug or MIL. 2002 90 Td5 Station Wagon
1990 Vogue SE
Triumph Tiger Explorer 1200
Td5 90 Thread http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic50767.html
Tdi 110 Thread https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic69562.html
RRC Thread http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic54492.html
Instagram http://www.instagram.com/george_grafton

29th Aug 2018 7:39am

rallysteve

Member Since: 10 Feb 2014
Location: Cumbria
Posts: 2227

2002 Defender 110 Td5 DCPU Keswick Green

Inertia switch does not stop the engine turning over on the starter motor. 02' 110 TD5 Double Cab Rebuild Thread

29th Aug 2018 7:40am

Td5Cam

Member Since: 09 Apr 2016
Location: Somerset
Posts: 32

Can rule out inertia switch, just checked that.

Will give the earth straps another check and clean them up.

If this fails are there any other thoughts?

29th Aug 2018 7:53am

dorsetsmith

Member Since: 30 Oct 2011
Location: South West
Posts: 4554

With ignition at position II is main relay and fuel pump relay operating can you hear the fuel pump

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1999 to 2001 relay

https://1drv.ms/w/s!AtZSoWFHDgnGhQzNRkjTwxAH0liJ

Last edited by dorsetsmith on 29th Aug 2018 3:32pm. Edited 7 times in total

29th Aug 2018 8:00am

Td5Cam

Member Since: 09 Apr 2016
Location: Somerset
Posts: 32

No cant hear fuel pump.

29th Aug 2018 8:03am

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