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| stevie d Member Since: 09 Nov 2009 Location: Bishops Stortford Posts: 342   
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Hi,
Anyone know where I can get a good quality Military bumper? I have seen a few for sale but can't seem to find out whether they are 'heavy duty' or cheap copies. I spoke to John Craddocks today, but they had know idea what the ones they were selling were like?? Thanks, Steve  Defender 90 TD5 Station Wagon
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7th Jan 2013 6:54pm |
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| leeds Member Since: 28 Dec 2009 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 8582
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7th Jan 2013 8:36pm |
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| farmer giles Member Since: 09 Feb 2011 Location: worcestershire Posts: 1299 
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hi steve,
i've had 4 military bumpers on various vehicles in the past and the best one was the newly galvanised version that can be seen in my gallery on my 300tdi. That was £80 from craddocks via their ebay shop. 
the worst was a "heavy duty military style bumper" that the powder coat finish came off far to quickly. it was a similar cost. i'm not sure if there are any differences between a normal military bumper and a wolf version, so if you can find a normal (early 90/110) ex military bumper that is already galvanised then that could be a very good option - i have seen these for about £45 + £10 for the towing pin, at various 4x4 shows |
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8th Jan 2013 9:52am |
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| Intercept Member Since: 27 Feb 2017 Location: Suffolk Posts: 587 
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Apologies for the thread resurrection...
I use the front hitch to maneuver my Sankey into the tight spot where it lives whilst not in use. The hitch is rather prominent so I was wondering whether the military version of the bumper with the pin is able to accept the NATO lunette? |
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30th Jul 2018 4:28pm |
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| MartinK Member Since: 02 Mar 2011 Location: Silverdale (Lancashire/Cumbria Border) Posts: 2665 
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Have a look on ebay using RRC3508 (genuine LR part)
I bought one (mine was galvanized and I painted it black). It's very sturdy, uses a 1" pin. Can send pics of mine if you want them It may not be as sturdy as some aftermarket bumpers, but it's one hell of a lot better than the thin/light rust-trap bumper that came on the Defender as standard Defender "Puma" 2.4 110 County Utility (possibly the last of the 2.4's) Last edited by MartinK on 30th Jul 2018 4:38pm. Edited 1 time in total |
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30th Jul 2018 4:36pm |
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| zsd-puma Member Since: 09 Aug 2016 Location: Kent Posts: 2720 
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 They've no idea if the products they sell are any good?  |
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30th Jul 2018 4:38pm |
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| MartinK Member Since: 02 Mar 2011 Location: Silverdale (Lancashire/Cumbria Border) Posts: 2665
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Re my thread above...
see here https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Genuine-Land-Ro...SwARtanCM~ looks the same as the one I bought... Defender "Puma" 2.4 110 County Utility (possibly the last of the 2.4's) |
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30th Jul 2018 4:39pm |
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| Intercept Member Since: 27 Feb 2017 Location: Suffolk Posts: 587
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Some forums have stated that they're not strong enough for pushing - that would be my need if anyone can confirm whether the NATO ring/lunette will fit into the receptacle. But I'd only be pushing a 3/4 tonne Sankey: Click image to enlarge |
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30th Jul 2018 5:21pm |
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| Mash Member Since: 09 Feb 2015 Location: Guernsey Posts: 1674  
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The NATO ring is even across the board on size as far as I am aware, it is designed to fit the military straight bar for recovery so I can’t see any issues with the trailer, I’m sure I have shunted trailers with them before.
As for strength I have shunted a MMLC via a straight bar before and not seen any damage to the bumper if done under control. 90 wolf - Jasmin http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic39408.html 90 V8 - Maggie http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic42564.html 110 TD5 - Buggsy http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic59029.html 52HG25 lightweight https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic72342.html D3 Hse - Fiona Capri 2l S - Anna Think I might have a problem............ |
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30th Jul 2018 7:56pm |
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| Intercept Member Since: 27 Feb 2017 Location: Suffolk Posts: 587
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Thanks Mash.
So my next question is whether the hitch pin can be removed if a military bumper is fitted to a Defender with an aircon grille... |
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30th Jul 2018 8:30pm |
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| Grouse Member Since: 16 Apr 2012 Location: on the hill Posts: 524 |
I have shunted a 4 ton ballast roller with the type of ring hitch shown below in the piccy with the Wolf / MOD bumper. The Ag type pick up hitch / ring hitch is though slightly less in diameter than the Sankey type. It handles it fine as long as you show it some mechanical sympathy and don’t shock load it
The proper Wolf bumper is reinforced and fully enclosed along the rear of the centre section of the bumper. Click image to enlarge Last edited by Grouse on 30th Jul 2018 8:37pm. Edited 2 times in total |
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30th Jul 2018 8:34pm |
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| LandRoverAnorak Member Since: 17 Jul 2011 Location: Surrey Posts: 11324
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I looked at this and found that the only way it can work is to insert the pin from underneath and put the lynch pin in at the top. It's probably ok but not ideal, so I've gone off the idea of fitting one to mine. Darren
110 USW BUILD THREAD - EXPEDITION TRAILER - 200tdi 90 BUILD THREAD - SANKEY TRAILER - IG@landroveranorak "You came in that thing? You're braver than I thought!" - Princess Leia |
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30th Jul 2018 8:34pm |
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| Intercept Member Since: 27 Feb 2017 Location: Suffolk Posts: 587
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Thanks Darren. I feared that might be the case. Not ideal when you've got a Sankey in one hand and you're trying to insert the pin from below and lynch pin it with the other!
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30th Jul 2018 9:08pm |
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| Grouse Member Since: 16 Apr 2012 Location: on the hill Posts: 524 |
Why is that ? Is it due to the Aircon grill snout ? If you have a jack on the Sankey you don’t need to support it with one hand - leaving both free to put the pin in
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30th Jul 2018 9:22pm |
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