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Dartmoor defender



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Help! turbo boost solenoid
My 110 (2008/ puma engine) is loosing power and it appears to be the turbo boost solenoid. The following codes are coming up;
P0046
P0234
It is a nightmare as I have already replaced the turbo within the last two years. I am told that you cannot buy the turbo boost solenoid on its own.
Has anyone got any suggestions?
Neutral
Post #408035 16th Mar 2015 1:17pm
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K9F



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United Kingdom 2008 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Stornoway Grey
Call Pete at Bell Auto Services.

Why the big writing? Thumbs Up If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!

Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!!
Post #408037 16th Mar 2015 1:24pm
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Lou Sparts



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I like the big writing I can read it without my glasses on Thumbs Up 2005 Td5 90 XS

Steve
Post #408039 16th Mar 2015 1:27pm
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Caterham



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are you sure it's the solenoid and not the wiring to it - I believe there's repair harness - installation detailed by dargel IIRC.

Are you getting fault codes?


good luck.
Post #408052 16th Mar 2015 1:47pm
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Lorryman100



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Puma turbos have a modulator attached to the turbo housing. Modulator failures whilst not unheard of are not that common however wiring faults are. Given the age of your defender I would be checking that the turbo modulator loom has not been fractured due to the engine vibration and that all the connections are secure within the modulator harness plug (circled in below pic).


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To assist in diagnosing your issue can you answer the following questions?

1. Are the DTC's you listed tested or untested
2. Does the MIL lamp illuminate when you have the low power
3. What about the live data from the engine, how much boost psi is being generated
4. When you say the Puma is losing power could you explain the symptoms
5. What makes you think it is the turbo

FYI

P0234 (Turbocharger A over boost condition) is a common dtc on Pumas.

Can you list the full DTC code for P0046 as there are 4 different faults under this dtc which can narrow down the electrical problem:

P0046-11 Turbocharger boost control A circuit range/performance- circuit short to ground

P0046-12 Turbocharger boost control A circuit range/performance - circuit short to battery

P0046-1A Turbocharger boost control A circuit range/performance - circuit resistance below threshold

P0046-1B Turbocharger boost control A circuit range/performance - circuit resistance above threshold

If the MIL is illuminated along with P0046 as a tested dtc then the issue is with the modulator, whether it is the modulator itself which is not a servicable part and if it is faulty a new turbo unit is required or the more likely issue is with the modulator harness, a break in the wiring or the plug contacts. JMTW Thumbs Up

Here is the Modulator wiring harness Tech Bulletin.


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The modulator is No 3 in the below pic:


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http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic9000.html

http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic8995.html

HTH :thumbsup:

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Post #408271 16th Mar 2015 9:32pm
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martinfiattech



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Nice to see lorryman`s knowledge back. Will make a copy of these for myself, thanks.

I think I read some where you can get the turbo modulator unit it`s self, from ford separate to the turbo.
(Not saying that`s the problem. But have I got this wright ?). Excuse the spelling I`am better with spanners and wires.
Post #408344 17th Mar 2015 9:38am
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Caterham



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England 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Stornoway Grey
Talking 2.4's here.
Can anyone explain what the difference is between the earlier harness susceptible to problems and the later ones?
Post #429238 7th Jun 2015 3:10pm
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ickle



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I think the loom fails when it is stretched around the air con compressor.

In lorrymans post I would check the operation of the variable vanes first, carefully disconnect the link shown as item 4, and check they operate smoothly and don't stick.

Mines got the above codes and faults, changed the loom, sensors, ran 2 lots turbo cleaner through it with no joy, so now there's a brand new turbo on the bench waiting to fit
Post #429243 7th Jun 2015 3:21pm
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Fifth Horseman



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If my previous '07 was anything to go by, the harness to the actuator is quite tight with the wires under tension. On the later ones the loom has some slack in it.
Post #429244 7th Jun 2015 3:21pm
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Caterham



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Thumbs Up think mines the later variety

thanks.
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lost gringo



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rotary actuators
these critters are available and cheap from aliexpress. but like the man said, they dont fail that often unless messed with
Post #717945 15th Jul 2018 9:30pm
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lost gringo



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with my icarsoft reader i get a code p2263 but it also shows Boost pressure actuator Bank 1 at .08% with desired position at 20%.
also Boost pressure actuator Bank 1 controller output is ALWAYS at 0%.
am i looking at a clue here?
forsure going to look closely at wiring loom, tho my actuator wires come below the ac compressor not over the top. guess they re-routed those 2013???
Post #718244 17th Jul 2018 5:12pm
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