mse wrote:

When servicing - dont use those cheap parts buy genuine filters...cost isnt much more and quality is massive.

Better all round.

Zinke wrote:

Im not trying to say that they are as good as genuine filters but i can buy nearly 4 sets of the bearmach filters for the same price as one set of genuine. And the bearmach ones arent as cheap and nasty as the britpart ones are, ive seen them before and the fuel filter is very poor, saw one rust out in under a year as they are not painted. If fact i would be very surprised if the if the bearmach ones didnt come from the same factory. Its not always worth paying the extra for it to have land rover stamped on it (unless your under warranty still) when a OE part is the same thing, sometimes for half the price.

Anyway this is my personal opinion and the way i work, i try to use OE parts when possible and then genuine parts if i cant get OE ones. I only fit pattern parts when a customer asks for them (having warned them first) or no other opinions are available and they normally take much more fitting and fail much sooner.

Pete.

People (mainly land rover people - who you can sometime stereo type ) would like you to believe that, but its not the case.

Genuine ones carry their own 12 month warranty, are quality controlled, good qaulity and built to work.

I heard that from one of the intermediaries that most of these so call re-packaged identical ones are re-packaged etc.

Price doesnt enter into it (i can get none genuine at cost...which you would cry if you knew what they sold for) but i still buy (for the past 15 years) genuine Oil, Fuel and where i have them air filters.

Only time i would say and dont is where you are buying a brand itself - with similar backup like EBC or Brembo

And before anyone says - some are repackaged; but where you get supercharged sports running Brembo brakes - they are repacked genuine LR...and cost more Mike

Zinke wrote:

Well i have run a independent land rover workshop for the last 10 years and must of changed 1000's of filters. I have fitted genuine and patten filters, from ones that cost the nearly the same as genuine ones to ones that cost pennys (yes i buy things at trade prices too!) And the ones i use at the moment look identical to the land rover ones when i have had them side by side on they workbench, same tooling marks, pressings and paint colour. Just have different things printed on them.

Anyway my point is i have never had a problem with the ones i use and neither have my customers who return year after year. I use genuine where it is needed but do not like paying way to much for something that says land rover on it when other products will do exactly the same job. Remember we are talking about filters here and not other parts. And as land rover dont make there own filters OE ones will come off the exact same production line at the same time.

The only thing you will get with the genuine part is the 12 month warranty, But if a OE filter failed and caused damage then they would still have to cover you in the same way, its something to do with the product sold being fit for purpose or something like that, cant remember the exact details.

Anyway im sure you are right about the quality control but is it really worth paying all that extra for? If a OE part has a visible defect then just dont fit it, im sure some genuine ones will slip through quality control too.

Anyway my main point is, even if the genuine filters are better made, on a vehicle thats out of warranty, is it really worth paying the extra? Good quality patten parts are still good quality parts, and im sure some things are better made than the stuff land rover provides!

Pete

Its not strictly true...first cost is a lot cheaper than trade (i get both!), when cost is the supply to the trade for them to have trade

On making their own, yes its strictly true that land rover dont make their own, nor then do they "make" 50% of the car but what they do is work in partnership with suppliers to get items as they design and/or to their specification etc etc

The old addage of "ive fitted millions and never has there been a problem" a very close personal friend owns his own indep. LR business and he fits genuine, unless there is a specific reason - he buys them in huge packs and they are pennies more but just better.
Although who knows the long term damage you do or the tollerance...many cars with low miles and services using genuine kit tends to last...plus i trust the genuine/branded parts to work everytime and take more abuse...better safety factors.

Who knows if X engine problem was caused by Y crappy part...im sure sometimes this is the case, but people dont put 2 and 2 together. You just need to read some of the oil posts on here!

Often have i encountered those who fit a pattern part that cost X saving 60% and it lasted 70% less than the genuine or fails and leaves you stranded (been there), or is more noisy or something that isnt as good.

One day when you are bored - cut one open, i did you would be interested in the difference.

As for quality control and warranty...yes i want it and will pay a little more because at the end of the day i dont want to waste my life doing something i have already done because of failure of something or for something to cost me twice to be no further forward...

Its a false economy and offers no actual saving - unless you only count immediate physical pounds Mike

mooro47 wrote:

Everything has to be fit for purpose, sale of goods act etc.

Good luck with that theory