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| InternationalDBA Member Since: 18 Feb 2018 Location: West Sussex Posts: 19   
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If your Puma suddenly becomes noisy, check out this video:
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18th Feb 2018 8:58pm |
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| ickle Member Since: 22 Jul 2010 Location: South Vendee Posts: 1782  
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If the injectors have been loose and moving minutely several hundred thousand times - wouldn't you have to change the washers at their base as well?
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18th Feb 2018 9:10pm |
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| InternationalDBA Member Since: 18 Feb 2018 Location: West Sussex Posts: 19
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Thank you both for your replies.
I have to admit straight away that my knowledge of car engines comes mainly from working on petrol ones with carburettors in the 1980's. I know next to nothing about diesel engines with injectors so what you say is probably correct. In this case I only had to drive the car in this state for about 5 miles, after which I left it at home until I could fix it. Will I still need to change the washers you mention? If so, do you know if they are: (a) Expensive? (b) Available from a motor factor or will I have to go to a main dealer? I will remove the bolt and retighten it as suggested and update the description on the video. |
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18th Feb 2018 9:57pm |
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| Dieselhead Member Since: 21 Oct 2012 Location: Pulborough. West Sussex Posts: 552 |
I have a set of washers & will do mine soon. App they are the same as D3 but cheaper??
Going to the dealer & will buy 2 new bolts just to be sure also Chris 2008 XS 110 2.4 Utility. Tonga Green 1953 Series 1 for restoration 1983 Mini Mayfair 2004 VW T5 Camper 2008 Diahatsu Sirion. Thats hers Classic Bolens Garden Tractors |
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18th Feb 2018 10:07pm |
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| Badger110 Member Since: 06 Feb 2018 Location: South hams Posts: 1039 
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Somebody show this man how to edit a video please
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18th Feb 2018 10:16pm |
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| proloForêt Member Since: 16 Mar 2017 Location: Montereau Posts: 248 
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My wife she say “ so cute “ Merci pour cette très interessant vidéo. |
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18th Feb 2018 10:27pm |
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| agentmulder Member Since: 16 Apr 2016 Location: Outer Space Posts: 1324 
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Do not refit with thread lock! If he'd read about this on the internet as he said he did, he'd know that the bolts are torque to yeild bolts and shouldn't be reused. Next time he tries to unfasten it it'll shear off and be stuck in there = £££. And yes, replace the seals, the repeated knocking will have squished and work hardened them so they don't seal properly anymore. Solved the bowel problem, working on the consonants... |
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19th Feb 2018 12:06am |
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| LR90XS2011 Member Since: 05 Apr 2011 Location: bickenhill Posts: 3641 
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I like the last bit where he says the engine is running quietly LOL DEFENDER 90 TDCI XS,
I hope everyone is well and your land rovers make you happy |
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19th Feb 2018 6:21am |
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| InternationalDBA Member Since: 18 Feb 2018 Location: West Sussex Posts: 19
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Thank you all for your feedback.
As a first step I have added a disclaimer in capital letters at the end of the video's description explaining what I did wrong. When I get a moment I will add a warning at the end of the video itself too. Sorry but I haven't found out how to edit videos yet! 
When I said the engine was running quietly at the end I should really just have said that the dreadful noise had gone away! The engine has been making the sound you refer to for the last 133,000 miles!  |
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19th Feb 2018 6:37am |
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| LR90XS2011 Member Since: 05 Apr 2011 Location: bickenhill Posts: 3641
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International no offence meant.
they are all noisy , I have a petrol engine in my other car that I keep forgetting to switch off as its so quiet compared to mine. all the best Rob DEFENDER 90 TDCI XS, I hope everyone is well and your land rovers make you happy |
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19th Feb 2018 6:41am |
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| ian series 1 Member Since: 17 Nov 2014 Location: south Posts: 3127 
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Parts are not expensive, unless your getting them from a dealer,
I use TPUK on eBay quite a lot, decent quality at a decent price 
I’ve just done seals and various other bits over the weekend. https://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/ROCKER-COVER-GASK...Sw8XBZuVb5 80" 80" 86" 88" 90" Wanted, Forward Control Anything considered. |
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19th Feb 2018 7:11am |
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| proloForêt Member Since: 16 Mar 2017 Location: Montereau Posts: 248
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Is this a common issue please?
I see these seals referring to in some places as ‘service item’. Which for my understand is a scheduled change at some point? |
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19th Feb 2018 3:03pm |
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| meeerrrk Member Since: 12 Feb 2017 Location: Surrey Posts: 548 
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I love at the end he says "as you can hear the engine is running quietly now"
Ironically the engine is so loud you can barely hear him!  My 90 Project : http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic52774.html |
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19th Feb 2018 3:59pm |
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| zsd-puma Member Since: 09 Aug 2016 Location: Kent Posts: 2720 
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Yes it's a common issue. A service item, just means it's a part that you replace when ever you service (ie. repair, remove) components attached to them. So if you service the injectors the washers should always be replaced. Much like you'd never bother to reuse a rocker cover gasket, if you removed the rocker cover. It doesn't mean they're a "routine service" part. The washers are extremely expensive from Land Rover dealers, at about £20 each! You can get the same washers from a Citroen dealer for about £7 each (Citroen Relay's use the Puma engine), they're £8.50 from Ford, or about £1 each from a diesel injection specialist. They're actually matched to the Denso injectors rather than the engine, the same injectors are used in various Toyota's too. |
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19th Feb 2018 5:44pm |
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