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| gilarion Member Since: 05 Dec 2013 Location: Wales Posts: 5110   
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At only £109.65 a pair with free P&P are they too good to be true ?
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Land-Rover-7-LE...0005.m1851 For those who like Welsh Mountains and narrow boats have a look at my videos and photos at.. http://www.youtube.com/user/conwy1 |
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22nd Jan 2018 7:02pm |
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| Mash Member Since: 09 Feb 2015 Location: Guernsey Posts: 1674  
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I would say too good to be true, it doesn’t state the full E approval number, with the new MOT rules they are trying to bring in and the fact non approved lights could invalidate your insurance I would only fit approved headlights. 90 wolf - Jasmin http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic39408.html
90 V8 - Maggie http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic42564.html 110 TD5 - Buggsy http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic59029.html 52HG25 lightweight https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic72342.html D3 Hse - Fiona Capri 2l S - Anna Think I might have a problem............ |
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22nd Jan 2018 7:14pm |
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| GREENI Member Since: 22 Aug 2010 Location: staffs Posts: 10381 
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Aka ' Britpart'.
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22nd Jan 2018 7:43pm |
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| ericvv Member Since: 02 Jun 2011 Location: Near the Jet d'Eau Posts: 5816  
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It says that they are E and DOT approved. I don’t really want to spoil it for Brendan to comment
 , but such a thing just does not exist. Approval is one or the other, cannot be both.
Eric You never actually own a Defender. You merely look after it for the next generation. http://youtu.be/yVRlSsJwD0o https://youtu.be/vmPr3oTHndg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GtzTT9Pdl0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABqKPz28e6A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLZ49Jce_n0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvAsz_ilQYU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8tMHiX9lSw https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dxwjPuHIV7I https://vimeo.com/201482507 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSixqL0iyHw |
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22nd Jan 2018 8:26pm |
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| Enid_Puceflange Member Since: 25 Oct 2014 Location: edinburgh Posts: 1172  
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I bought a pair that look identical to the ones in the boxed first photo, from a different eBay seller about 6 months ago
To be honest, I am happy with them, good performance & a great upgrade from the standard units When I fitted them and took my Defender into work to set up the adjustment on the MOT ramp The headlight beam measuring thingy was showing the beam pattern for the sidelight parts were all over the place!! They will fail an MOT , just depends if you can be bothered swapping standard units back in come MOT time (or if you know a tester who will throw a blind eye) They are good value for money, look the part, and light the road up well I doubt you would get a tug from Plod 
G My confidence has been writing cheques that my abilities can't cash for years. |
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22nd Jan 2018 8:59pm |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17382 
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^^^ And what do they do to oncoming traffic, and the safety of other road users if they are "all over the place"?
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22nd Jan 2018 9:09pm |
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| Enid_Puceflange Member Since: 25 Oct 2014 Location: edinburgh Posts: 1172
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The sidelight beam throws slight vertical illumination
It is impossible the adjust to meet the MOT test threshold I do accept that using these is a bit selfish BUT.............I am yet to have somebody even flash me  My confidence has been writing cheques that my abilities can't cash for years. |
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22nd Jan 2018 9:14pm |
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| leeds Member Since: 28 Dec 2009 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 8581
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Please zoom in on to the markings on the lens!
What do you see? Guess what DOT, SAE E in a circle Look at what they say
Where do I start? 100% Road Legal??  They are 100% ILLEGAL as they do not have an APPROVAL mark on.
RHD & LHD UK and EU Spec. To be RHD UK spec there should be an arrow on them to distinguish them from LHD EU spec. Just another legal requirement
E MARKED AND DOT APPROVED 
Well E marked? Meaningless statement as that is a country code and is missing some very vital information. DOT APPROVED: Really? There is NO such thing as DOT APPROVED.. This just shows the ignorance of many, many sellers on sites such as E bay. Why do I say that? DOT stands for the US Department of Transport. The DOT is the regulatory body in the USA which sets the standards. They do not actually approve any item in the USA. The light might be DOT compliant it is certainly not DOT approved. DOT is the regulatory framework which is recognised in N America. The headlight pattern is different to that set by the UN ECE regulations. Now some well respected LED manufacturers making headlights are based in the USA, companies such as Vision X, Truck-Lite, J W Speaker which sells lights in the UK. Guess what the headlights all three companies sell in Europe do not carry a DOT marking? I wonder why?? It would be much simpler for those companies to have one headlights, for RHD, USA, and most of Europe. However they have 2 one DOT compliant for N America and one with full UN ECE approved headlight for RHD Europe. Yes cheap and illegal! Brendan |
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22nd Jan 2018 10:50pm |
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| Spectre Member Since: 26 Jan 2016 Location: South East Posts: 228
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As above, Chinese knock offs of the JW Speaker units.
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23rd Jan 2018 1:34am |
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| Caterham Member Since: 06 Nov 2008 Location: Birmingham Posts: 6298  
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I know someone who had some and ended up binning them as they started causing problems with the electrickery in the car.
not sure of the exact details I'm afraid. |
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23rd Jan 2018 9:48am |
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| leeds Member Since: 28 Dec 2009 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 8581
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Caterham, the chances are that they are NOT EMC compliant so would cause interference to radio etc.
Brendan |
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23rd Jan 2018 12:27pm |
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