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Grenadier

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2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Corris Grey

Space Saver Spare Wheel - A Thought

Drove past an Audi A4 this evening trundling alone the Autoroute at 40kmh. Snow all over the place so thought he was the usual tourist. Turns out he was driving with his space saver mounted. I then passed a second A4 packed to the brim with a family heading to Cham for the weekend and had a thought. Where do you put your full fat wheel once you’ve mounted your space saver, if you have a full car and boot? I assume (not owning said technology) there is no where to put it and therefore unless you break down with an empty boot or empty rear seats, you will in effect be stranded? What a bonkers idea.

Monsieur Le Grenadier

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29th Dec 2017 10:29pm

Lou Sparts

Member Since: 15 Apr 2012
Location: Kent
Posts: 1501

2005 Defender 90 Td5 XS CSW Zambezi Silver

Lucky to have a spare wheel most cars now give you a pump and some sealant, not much good if you get a catastrophic blow out !

If you have a space saver wheel it usually has a spacer to make it fill the spare well properly so it doesn’t actually save any space !!! 2005 Td5 90 XS

Steve

29th Dec 2017 10:39pm

Lightningtweeds

Member Since: 16 May 2017
Location: Fintry
Posts: 461

2008 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 CSW Stornoway Grey

My mates Lambo has a teeny space saver and the handbook says the full size should be hidden for collection at a later time.

29th Dec 2017 11:06pm

grafty99

Member Since: 15 Aug 2012
Location: North Devon
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only the Italians would think that is acceptable 2002 90 Td5 Station Wagon
1990 Vogue SE
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29th Dec 2017 11:48pm

Lightningtweeds

Member Since: 16 May 2017
Location: Fintry
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He cannot drive it in the rain as the air intake is under the rear wheelarch...

29th Dec 2017 11:57pm

grafty99

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Location: North Devon
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Well lets face it, you don't buy a Lamborghini for it's practicality.

or wet weather so it seems

2002 90 Td5 Station Wagon
1990 Vogue SE
Triumph Tiger Explorer 1200
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30th Dec 2017 12:06am

Procta

Member Since: 03 Dec 2016
Location: Sunderland
Posts: 5163

I am not a fan of space savers, I think you only get a certain length of mileage out of the tyre too if I am right?
id rather buy a proper spare wheel and replace the space saver.
What used to make me laugh was car manufactures put a steel wheel as a spare when they could just give the owner a fifth alloy.
What I did with the 306, was wait till a scrap 306 come in with the same alloys as mine, and buy a spare alloy with a tyre.
Just to be a fanny

Defender TD5 90 ---/--- Peugeot 306 HDI hatch back

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30th Dec 2017 12:56pm

grafty99

Member Since: 15 Aug 2012
Location: North Devon
Posts: 4785

I carry an emergency puncture repair kit on my motorbike (as it quite difficult to carry a spare

) space savers originated back in the early 80's with the likes of the Porsche 911, Lamborghini Countash etc where they were

1) offset wheels (different width front and back)
2) wide wheels
3) magnesium

Alloy wheels then were also far more expensive to produce than they are now but space savers actually served a purpose. Now they are put in for

1) cost
2)emissions
3)packaging

And also I would say the average car owner is far less hands on in more recent times and would rather just have a garage deal with it. I would say thay most people now more likely to call for help and wait than change a wheel over themselves (but that could be a huge sweeping and inaccurate statement?) 2002 90 Td5 Station Wagon
1990 Vogue SE
Triumph Tiger Explorer 1200
Td5 90 Thread http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic50767.html
Tdi 110 Thread https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic69562.html
RRC Thread http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic54492.html
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30th Dec 2017 10:52pm

L110CDL

Member Since: 31 Oct 2015
Location: Devon
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Lightningtweeds wrote:
My mates Lambo has a teeny space saver and the handbook says the full size should be hidden for collection at a later time.

May i ask what Lambo it is please

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Clayton.

30th Dec 2017 11:02pm

kmac

Member Since: 07 Oct 2009
Location: Middlesex
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31st Dec 2017 10:56am

Lightningtweeds

Member Since: 16 May 2017
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An old classic one... a Countach i think. Ugly beast.

31st Dec 2017 11:12am

L110CDL

Member Since: 31 Oct 2015
Location: Devon
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^^^ many thanks

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Keeper.

Clayton.

31st Dec 2017 7:56pm

Procta

Member Since: 03 Dec 2016
Location: Sunderland
Posts: 5163

grafty99 wrote:

also I would say the average car owner is far less hands on in more recent times and would rather just have a garage deal with it. I would say thay most people now more likely to call for help and wait than change a wheel over themselves (but that could be a huge sweeping and inaccurate statement?)

I think its more down to the modern car, been a

to work on now, The Nissan note you have to practically dismantle it to do a air filter change, and i think the juke has to have the dash out to replace some filter.
My 306 HDI is just say on the boarder line of been easy to work on. You cannot not get your hands around the back of the engine at all. I had to replace the clutch cable on it a few years ago, and it wasn't fun at all. No access to anything sadly, unless the engine was out of the way. Defender TD5 90 ---/--- Peugeot 306 HDI hatch back

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1st Jan 2018 9:55pm

grafty99

Member Since: 15 Aug 2012
Location: North Devon
Posts: 4785

It's all in the aim of making things disposable. If cars start to fail and become too expensive to work on then people will buy another one. It's unfortunately not in manufacturers interest to make things easy to work on.

They should last the 3 years warranty without major work. After that the manufacturers really don't care

1st Jan 2018 10:12pm

HK07

Member Since: 15 Dec 2016
Location: Hampshire
Posts: 746

2007 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 HT Cairns Blue

HK07

I think your right there grafty with your three year warranty warning.

For the first time I am thinking of leasing my next car for exactly that reason.

Btw. grafty I was going to send you a text re another matter (security). If you don't wish to respond, I understand.

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2nd Jan 2018 1:29pm

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