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| Rashers Member Since: 21 Jun 2015 Location: Norfolk Posts: 3538   
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I’m not sure there is anyone of a certain age who has worked in the construction or building services industry who hasn’t had a lung full of asbestos at some point in their working life.
It concerns me. What concerns me more is still there seems to be a complete ignorance to its dangers. As Nitram says, it can stay dormant for years. I have been to the funeral of a colleague who died of Asbestosis. My mates Uncle died at 50 and was a carpenter who got it repairing aircraft hangers made out of the stuff. its a horrible way to die. The colour of the asbestos is another myth. Yes it is true that the blue and brown asbestos particles are more aggressive, but the white asbestos is far from safe. I suppose a bit like smoking high tar or low tar cigarettes (if you remember them). Neither are particularly good for you. (And smoking can increase the risk of contracting asbestosis if you have been exposed). The problem with asbestos, it is expensive to get rid of and with the thought of £3000 Bill to remove and correctly dispose of an asbestos lined garage roof by a licenced specialist, there are many who will go down the DIY route or those that would employ the chancer who will dump the waste in a field entrance and let the council sort it out. Me and the current Mrs Rashers got a local company in to do the job properly with an environment agency certificate, negative pressure protective enclosure and a fetching white caravan in the driveway for a couple of days. And the health and safety executive turned up uninvited to audit what the company was doing. They passed with flying colours, but you could see that they took their presence very seriously. |
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9th Dec 2017 8:46am |
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| What puddle? Member Since: 25 Oct 2013 Location: Reading Posts: 952
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I started smoking when I was 12, and I remember smoking Woodbine (non-tipped) for a while. I did give up when I was 20 though. Now, of course, whole different kettle of fish - I try to stay healthy, not breathe anything in that's even slightly dangerous, never take risks, and watch for any warning signs of horrible things. Being young you really do think you're immortal. Getting older, you think it could all end so quickly. One of my mates has terminal prostate cancer, he's 58, another has terminal brain tumour he's 58. Last week, talking to a neighbour who's 56, he has prostate cancer with no symptoms. The good thing is that there is no cancer in my family on either side of my mum's or dad's, and I really do think genes plays a massive part, from what I've read. On the downside, there is a history of heart disease, but not much. All you can do is live every day as happy as people like Theresa May will let you. She has seriously raised my blood pressure the past 24 hours. Now left.
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9th Dec 2017 9:59am |
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| ARC99 Member Since: 19 Feb 2013 Location: North Yorkshire Posts: 1831 
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The above posts are an insight as to how people worked in the past.
I started at I.C.I. on Teesside in 1968 as an apprentice, breathing all manner of noxious fumes, Sulphuric acid, phenol ( deadly if a drop the size of pin head gets into contact with skin) and Ammonia (paralyses the lungs) . I had to break asbestos lagging of large pipe joints and make thermal insulation pads for large heating elements from asbestos and fibre glass without any form of respiratory masks .This is how industry worked in days gone by ,people just got on with the job not knowing what effect it would have on there health in the future or what fibres they were taking home with them, now aged 65 I suffer from C.O.P.D. which the Dr's put down to my four years working in industry. Don't make old people mad. We don't like being old in the first place, so it doesn't take much to  us off.
Richard |
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9th Dec 2017 10:39am |
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| Zed Member Since: 07 Oct 2017 Location: In the woods Posts: 3345 
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Political bores on internet forums.
Shouty Far-left/right types trolling and posting essay length messages composed of dubious 'facts' copy and pasted from their favoured internet "news" outlet/blog. Always blaming everybody else for their self inflicted problems/perceived hardship/general lot in life. Deliberately using provocative language because they are safely anonymous hiding behind a keyboard and then crying "fascist!"/"loony lefty!" towards anyone who may have a slightly different point of view or "media bias!"/"fake news!" when presented facts that counter their position. |
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9th Dec 2017 10:46am |
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| Laurie Member Since: 22 Feb 2008 Location: Sussex, England Posts: 2897  
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I spent a fair bit of my life blowing the dust out of brake drums with an airline.
I'm approching 75 and have no respiratory problems. I've still got a set of S2 88 asbestos brake shoes in the garage. Anyone want them? Much better than the replacement rubbish.  |
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9th Dec 2017 10:53am |
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| Slideywindows Member Since: 09 Sep 2016 Location: North Essex Posts: 1287
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"Green" energy.
I had got about this far, when I realised it sucks: Click image to enlarge One of the coldest days of the year, no wind to turn all those windmills and millions of solar panels covered in inches of snow... Why couldn't all those subsidies have been thrown at schemes that deliver energy when you most need it - in Winter! Even when I'd got this far, it was hardly generating anything - but at least, by then I was warm. 
Click image to enlarge I guess it's a nuclear future for my grand children......  |
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10th Dec 2017 4:12pm |
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| Rashers Member Since: 21 Jun 2015 Location: Norfolk Posts: 3538
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That's bizarre! When my parents were accosted by a solar sales person a few years back I could have sworn that he said that snow would not stick to solar panels
Or maybe they are the wrong kind of panel, it's the wrong kind of snow, or that sales person was just a lying trying to earn some more commission.
Trying to sell a 70 year old an investment with a 18 year pay back (before any kind of profit - their forecast, not mine) was, let me put it diplomatically, optimistic. Mum and Dad didn't succumb. They just bought theirselves a new car with the money 
Answers on a postcard or sealed down envelope please. There are no prizes for the correct answer. |
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10th Dec 2017 4:20pm |
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| ian series 1 Member Since: 17 Nov 2014 Location: south Posts: 3127 
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I could give them a good home Laurie....  80" 80" 86" 88" 90"
Wanted, Forward Control Anything considered. |
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10th Dec 2017 5:48pm |
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| Laurie Member Since: 22 Feb 2008 Location: Sussex, England Posts: 2897
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I'm into hospital for an op on Tuesday then down to Zummerzet 'til after the new year.
Give me a reminder in January. |
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10th Dec 2017 6:07pm |
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| ian series 1 Member Since: 17 Nov 2014 Location: south Posts: 3127
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Will do, many thanks
Hope the op goes well! 80" 80" 86" 88" 90" Wanted, Forward Control Anything considered. |
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10th Dec 2017 6:27pm |
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| lambert.the.farmer Member Since: 11 Apr 2012 Location: harrogate Posts: 2006 
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Townies that don't get that the countryside is as much of an industrial working space as a foundry floor or car plant. For your own safety, go away and stop playing with things the consequences of which could be fatal! Rhubarb and custard let fly with their secret weapon.
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11th Dec 2017 11:43am |
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| leeds Member Since: 28 Dec 2009 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 8582
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People who think Facebook is the answer - no it isn't. Google is a far better friend
Just seen a thread on Angry Pumas (I refuse to put in the misplaced apostrophe) from someone ranting on that he is not happy and wants to speak to someone at a company. What pray is wrong with looking for the phone number and ringing them up? Some companies might expect their employees to be working rather than being on facebook unless they are PR/Marketing types and that is their job. It strikes me as the height of idleness to ask a general question on Facebook rather than find out for yourself. The number of times you see 'what time does tesco close? on our local facebook page is unbelievable. In my defence I was only on facebook during working hours as I was putting an offer on 
Regards Barbara |
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13th Dec 2017 2:54pm |
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| lambert.the.farmer Member Since: 11 Apr 2012 Location: harrogate Posts: 2006
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People who have nothing productive to do with their weekend so that they feel obliged to crash about in the countryside and take pot shots with scatter guns at birds on the wing. Noisy pheasant murdering hooray types, there's no sport in that. Go shoot clays if you want to see if you can hit a moving target. Or if you want to hunt something get a camera and telephoto lens and stalk something. Don't get other people to heard the quarry onto a line of guns putting up a wall of lead. Its barbaric, not sporting. Oh and the justification of eating what is killed as a source of food is meaningless too in a society that has shops full of humanly produced food.
Sorry for the offence but the local lot were out yesterday braying away on the other side of the valley and it upsets my equilibrium. That and my sheep get anxious. Rhubarb and custard let fly with their secret weapon. |
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17th Dec 2017 7:33am |
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| Grenadier Member Since: 23 Jul 2014 Location: The foot of Mont Blanc... Posts: 5878  
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Security at airports. I appreciate the need for airport security given current climes, but we had to produce our passports 10 times (TEN TIMES) at Casablanca airport between the main entrance and the plane. Three of those checks came in pairs in the same line, same corridor as a previous check with no more than 5-10m apart.
Monsieur Le Grenadier
I've not been everywhere, but it's on my list..... 2011 Puma 110DC - Corris Grey |
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17th Dec 2017 9:51am |
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