seriesonenut wrote:

Yes the sad reality is the Police are under funded and like all of us have to prioritise. Much of their efforts go unseen. Cyber crime is growing but they have to prioritise towards issues such as child se....exploitation, drugs & terrorisum. A bobby on the beat is reassuring but believe me they are working very hard behind the scenes to make sure our lifestyle is preserved.

I think it is up to all of us collectively to agree a way forward and not rely on others or blame the Police. We have been given some sound advice already. Much speak about Paypal and charges but in my case I would have gladly added £5 to the cost if it meant not loosing everything to someone who thinks it easier to pray on good folk than go out an earn a living like most of us.

Swine&Small wrote:

Reported my loss by phone to my local police, ( I am on holiday at the moment, ), and not surprisingly they are not interested. They tell me that this is a civil matter and is down to me to take any lawful action that I choose. Sorry response, but probably a sign of the times. If I was driving at 32 in a 30 limit I bet they would have time for that?
It seems that for the police to take any interest in a "crime", there needs to be some profit and/or income in it for them such as a fine.
I do not see that the sort of offences that we have just suffered can be deterred when there is no downside or price to pay by the offender. I think that this has become a very sad country to live in and , especially today when we observe the rememberance day , I wonder what those who gave their all would think
I am now considering writing to my MP on this matter to get some clarification on the police response.
Any others have any thoughts on this?

I suspect that whoever you spoke to does not know the law , or just wants a quiet life.

I have included the definitions of theft and Fraud should you want to recontact them.

Theft............A person is guilty of theft if he dishonestly appropriates property belonging to another with the intention of permanently depriving the other of it.



Fraud by false representation
(1)
A person is in breach of this section if he—
(a)
dishonestly makes a false representation, and
(b)
intends, by making the representation—
(i)
to make a gain for himself or another, or
(ii)
to cause loss to another or to expose another to a risk of loss.
(2)
A representation is false if—
(a)
it is untrue or misleading, and
(b)
the person making it knows that it is, or might be, untrue or misleading.
(3)
“Representation” means any representation as to fact or law, including a representation as to the state of mind of—
(a)
the person making the representation, or
(b)
any other person.
(4)
A representation may be express or implied.
(5)
For the purposes of this section a representation may be regarded as made if it (or anything implying it) is submitted in any form to any system or device designed to receive, convey or respond to communications (with or without human intervention). Don't make old people mad.
We don't like being old in the first place,
so it doesn't take much to us off.

Richard