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| Martin Site Admin Member Since: 02 Apr 2007 Location: Hook Norton Posts: 6608   
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In response to the recent fraud carried out on here in the last month, I thought it was worth a few notes to try and keep yourself safe when buying from other forum members.
Sadly, one person has ruined the trust and community spirit here which will ultimately end up with people being much more wary of dealing with each other. Bank transfer should be considered as unsafe as PayPal gift payments. Although there is technically a stack of personal information held by banks regarding account holders, in the current climate the banks are not willing to pursue claims of fraud/scams against accounts held by them. So my advice is now to NOT use bank transfers for payments unless the other person is very well known to you and you trust them explicitly to deliver. In reality this leaves PayPal standard (NOT family/friend/gift) as the only secure method of carrying out an online payment, as you have total protection against fraud. The seller has to pay a % fee to receive funds using PayPal, and I understand that can be annoying, however the fraud prevention MUST come first and sellers MUST reassure buyers and using PayPal standard goes a long way to prove that you are genuine. Also I would encourage potential buyers to collect verifiable personal information about who you are buying from. A genuine seller will have no problem with this. Unfortunately an email address and mobile number is not enough to find someone - email accounts are disposable and mobile phone SIM cards available for 99p from every corner shop. Do a check on a member's forum posts, their post count can be misleading. Click the Profile button under any of their posts (or their name in the PM list) and then click the "Find all posts by <name>" link. Have they just posted a single word answer, emoticon/icon or quick reply in a number of threads to boost their post count? Please be aware that memberships here are not vetted on registration, we are not a club with a database of contact details or other personal information. Be EXTREMELY careful when purchasing items from those who are new to the site, who have very few posts or PM you in response to a wanted ad with a great deal or something which seems to good to be true. To expand upon that - a brand new member offering parts via PM with little forum input is effectively working around the forum's rules regarding selling straight away, and is a method used by fraudsters to scam people. DO NOT buy from anyone offering you exactly what you want via PM when they have virtually no forum "history". In addition, if you suspect a seller or offer please, please help out the community and report it. Send me a PM, email, whatever. Flag it up - it's better to be safe than sorry. Don't sit on a concern - it may come too late to save others 
It's a real shame that this all has to be said but that is the nature of the internet nowadays - be as vigilant online as you would with someone walking up to you in the street, or at a show.  1988 90 Td5 NAS soft top
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11th Nov 2017 10:18am |
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| Screbble Member Since: 26 Apr 2015 Location: Lancashire Posts: 2103 
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Really proactive and helpful Martin - thank you
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11th Nov 2017 11:54am |
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| Swine&Small Member Since: 20 Mar 2017 Location: Norfolk Posts: 1223
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Ditto
1983 Series 3 Pick up in Marine Blue
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11th Nov 2017 1:16pm |
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| Ade90 Member Since: 30 May 2014 Location: Birmingham Posts: 130
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I feel for all those affected.
It is a sad fact these scammers exist and Martin's post reminds us all be be every vigilant. I have bought off form a Forum member in the past and have nothing, but praise for their honestly etc. One bad apple will not change my view of what is IMHO the BEST Land Rover forum x Far! Fixing Land Rovers for over 25 years..........and making excuses to the wife for almost as long 
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11th Nov 2017 1:41pm |
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| ian series 1 Member Since: 17 Nov 2014 Location: south Posts: 3127 
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80" 80" 86" 88" 90"
Wanted, Forward Control Anything considered. |
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11th Nov 2017 5:05pm |
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| GREENI Member Since: 22 Aug 2010 Location: staffs Posts: 10383
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If anybody is selling something and I've dealt with them before, or know them face to face, I'll give them kudos, for peace of mind for potential buyers.
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11th Nov 2017 6:00pm |
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| JAY BOY Member Since: 04 May 2010 Location: Not here Posts: 1706 
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Agreed, If anyone is buying from a new member and lives local to another member we should ask if the person is known. If there genuine they won't mind if not they'll soon  off.
This is the best forum for our cars but it inevitable that people will try and have our pants down. If we all stick together we'll beat them off. |
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11th Nov 2017 6:10pm |
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| DOOFER Member Since: 07 Oct 2012 Location: Suffolk Posts: 412 |
What was the username of the fraudster please
Adam DON'T PANIC |
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11th Nov 2017 6:40pm |
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| BenB8man Member Since: 22 Mar 2017 Location: Norfolk Posts: 429 
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Username was 'Coatseyyy', Doofer. A lot of people are looking for the bloke.
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11th Nov 2017 6:43pm |
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| DOOFER Member Since: 07 Oct 2012 Location: Suffolk Posts: 412 |
Sad to say I’m one of them!! First time in over ten years I’ve ever been taken online. Gutted.
I usually look at how many posts or how long they have been on the forum. If I’m honest I made this transaction whilst working away from home and pushed for time. It’s a shame but it’s my own fault. I was taken for £68 hopefully no one else was taken for more. A big thankyou at the same time to all the trustworthy sellers on this forum, I’ve made quite a few purchases over the years since I joined and have never been let down DON'T PANIC |
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11th Nov 2017 6:49pm |
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| Knocker458 Member Since: 21 Feb 2014 Location: South West Posts: 45 
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That explains why I’ve not received my goods or heard from him, gutted!
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11th Nov 2017 7:20pm |
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| BenB8man Member Since: 22 Mar 2017 Location: Norfolk Posts: 429
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Give Martin a PM. There’s a group for those effected.
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11th Nov 2017 8:00pm |
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| DOOFER Member Since: 07 Oct 2012 Location: Suffolk Posts: 412 |
A group? DON'T PANIC
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11th Nov 2017 8:03pm |
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| JOW240725 Member Since: 04 May 2015 Location: Suffolk Posts: 7906 
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Firstly Martin, thank you for the advice, much appreciated.
Secondly, yes this has made me more wary but, I refuse to let this experience spoil my enjoyment of this forum or spoil the sense of community. James
MY2012 110 2.2TDCi XS SW Orkney Grey - http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic43410.html MY1990 110 200TDi SW beautifully faded Portofino Red - https://www.defender2.net/forum/post743641.html#743641 MY1984 90 V8 Slate Grey - https://www.defender2.net/forum/post744557.html#744557 Instagram @suffolk_rovers |
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11th Nov 2017 8:06pm |
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