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| agentmulder Member Since: 16 Apr 2016 Location: Outer Space Posts: 1324  
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Second hand are hard to come by. The installation of a proper cage involves a lot of destructive hole cutting and small mods to the vehicle structure to make it work as intended. Removing one would seem silly or redundant in most cases, I guess someone may have taken their vehicle for a swim and it was written off? Solved the bowel problem, working on the consonants...
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17th Oct 2017 6:35am |
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| Kit Member Since: 12 Feb 2016 Location: Shropshire Posts: 1110  
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Most of the ones i've seen for sale are from unfinished projects or from a change of heart (usually when someone finds out that it costs as much to fit as it does to buy it!) 1993 200 Tdi 90 CSW
1956 Series 1 Hard-top 1958 Series 1 Soft-top |
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17th Oct 2017 6:49am |
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| agentmulder Member Since: 16 Apr 2016 Location: Outer Space Posts: 1324
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Fair point. When mine arrived I cut the first hole within hours to make sure I followed through
 
It was a CHORE installing it, shudder thinking about how much the local 4x4 outfit would have charged. Solved the bowel problem, working on the consonants... Last edited by agentmulder on 17th Oct 2017 10:14am. Edited 1 time in total |
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17th Oct 2017 6:55am |
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| BLACK LAB Member Since: 07 Dec 2016 Location: AYRSHIRE Posts: 165 
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Is the front ones even hard to fit ? Whats all involved in it ? I thought they just bolted on ? 2006 DEFENDER 90 TD5 CSW XS
2018 RANGE ROVER SPORT HSE DYNAMIC |
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17th Oct 2017 9:18am |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17372 
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Yes, they are quite involved to fit, more so if you have things like rock sliders and/or RAI etc.
Here's a link to a time-lapse video from Safety Devices (which is entirely unhelpful because it is so fast) but is amusing. If you visit http://www.safetydevices.com you can find the fitting instructions. |
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17th Oct 2017 9:23am |
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| BLACK LAB Member Since: 07 Dec 2016 Location: AYRSHIRE Posts: 165
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So looking into that ......There is quite alot of work . Not enough to put me off completely .
Does anybody think that a good solid roof rack may afford some degree of protection ? Maybe a half way house between standard and full roll cage ? I still like the roll cage though ....Also seems like you coudl still strap stuff securely to the roll cage as well ? Is that legal or not ? I just keep thinking I should make the vehicle a bit safer cos my young lad travels in the front of it in his car seat because he is too wee to go in the side facing rear seats ? I'm a bit concerned that the A-posts look a bit weak if we ever crashed ? Those front roll cages look ok on ebay for about £600-£700 ? Or is there better options out there ? 2006 DEFENDER 90 TD5 CSW XS 2018 RANGE ROVER SPORT HSE DYNAMIC |
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17th Oct 2017 9:32am |
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| Thon Member Since: 22 Nov 2015 Location: Salisbury Plain Posts: 696
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Trek Overland has a sale on at the moment, with Safety Devices cages at a discount. Still pretty expensive though.
Having been through the fitting process myself, and having lived with it for 6 months or so, I am more than happy that I fitted it. If you don't mind the looks of the external cage, I would advise that full external is the simpler way than the external front/internal rear that I have. Safety Devices were very helpful with the process, but I think there are cheaper alternatives, such as P&P. Regarding fitting a roof rack as a substitute - don't bother. The roll strength of a Defender is pretty poor by today's standards and adding a roof rack will not help as it is the strength (or lack of) in the pillars that is the critical factor. This is my 5th and final Defender and with all of the previous 4 I wished i'd been able to afford to fit a cage. I also now have a toddler that regularly travels with me, plus my wife and the dog, so it finally pushed me over the edge to get one fitted. It was a mammoth job, but I also took the opportunity to remove and paint the (flaky) roof and re-seal every joint.  Click image to enlarge Click image to enlarge Click image to enlarge Click image to enlarge Click image to enlarge Click image to enlarge |
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17th Oct 2017 9:54am |
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| BLACK LAB Member Since: 07 Dec 2016 Location: AYRSHIRE Posts: 165
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To be honest I quite like the rugged look of the full external roll cage - I'm not too fussed about the internal ones . 2006 DEFENDER 90 TD5 CSW XS
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17th Oct 2017 10:15am |
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| Thon Member Since: 22 Nov 2015 Location: Salisbury Plain Posts: 696
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To each his own
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17th Oct 2017 10:24am |
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| agentmulder Member Since: 16 Apr 2016 Location: Outer Space Posts: 1324
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And you can use the external cage as a rack yes ...
Click image to enlarge And yeah, external cages look great too  Solved the bowel problem, working on the consonants... |
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17th Oct 2017 10:38am |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17372
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As commented above, a roof rack will not make the lightest difference to the survivability, and in fact makes it more likely that the vehicle will end on its roof in an incident.
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17th Oct 2017 11:25am |
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| bankz5152 Member Since: 02 Feb 2017 Location: South London/North Kent Posts: 2164 
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The quotes I got for a full external for a DCPU where around £3k supply and fit from most places. However this was no interior bracing as it makes the Defender cab even smaller! Prices where around £4k+ for an internal/external one.
Though I did get a chance to speak to SD at the LRO Show, they basically said if you can use a spanner you can fit one yourself with a few mates over a weekend. So that is the plan really, though will be doing it with paid help from some mates that own a garage and many tools @Thon that looks like a lovely cage! How did you find the fitting process? |
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17th Oct 2017 2:14pm |
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| camelman Member Since: 27 Feb 2013 Location: Peak District Posts: 3372
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I had mine full external cage fitted by Safety Devices at their premises last year.
It was around 2.5k inc fitting I believe but I think they might have been doing a deal at the time. They worked on it 3 - 4 days. Thon - I'd be looking at getting some padding fitted to the internal cage. |
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17th Oct 2017 2:28pm |
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| Thon Member Since: 22 Nov 2015 Location: Salisbury Plain Posts: 696
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It's all just spanner work, coupled with some panel removal and cutting, stress, trim removal, cutting, adjusting, tears, re-drilling chassis outriggers, more tears and finally a big bill when you lose the will to live....
Honestly though, if you have the time it isn't actually difficult to do although having tools aplenty and space to work around it is very useful. Probably the mot frustrating was removing the NS outer wing, with the heater intake in the way of half of the bolts. Having more than one person definitely recommended in offering up. Also think of the other things that you might want to consider before you fit it, such as paintwork or leaks. I can no longer remove my roof without dismantling the cage.... The big advantage of the pure external version is that there's very little disturbance of the interior trim. The internal part on mine doesn't really make it much smaller inside as the driver cab part is external. All of my load area trim had to be modified but that isn't a problem for me or the dog. |
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17th Oct 2017 2:30pm |
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