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24heuer



Member Since: 21 Jul 2015
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Scotland 2010 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 CSW Keswick Green
Any Puma clutch experts?
Hi, just chatting to my brother and he mentioned this -
Long story short - low mileage (7.5k) late model hire vehicle did a bit of unauthorised 'light offroading' resulting in a burned out clutch.
(not his or my vehicle fortunately).
The pics below apparently show the damage.
Feedback from the hire co is 'clutch burned out, no fraction material'.
Excuse my ignorance (don't laugh) but looking at the images i'm wondering is that a HD paddle clutch?
If so, were they fitted as standard by LR to late model Pumas?
Or is it just that everything's disintegrated around the panel shapes.
Any experts have any comments of the apparent damage or the parts shown?
Thanks in advance for any info Smile



 Cheers,
Andy...
Edinburgh, Scotland
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dorsetsmith



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I have see before with SHB 90 TD5 had been stolen from site and left in river as its clutch had burned out leaving the same blackened in side bell housing
Post #654845 4th Oct 2017 11:59am
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hank



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Wales 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey
If a hire vehicle, could well have been abused over its short life, finally letting go during this unauthorised light off roading. Unfortunate timing perhaps!
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blackwolf



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey
Looking at the fragments of friction material I would have said that that was a standard TDCi Defender clutch.

What does baffle me is how the <family> someone can do that to it? What was going on? That is not the result of a some "light offroading"! Shocked

That is the result of a sustained and brutal assault by someone with absolutely no clue how to drive.
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zsd-puma



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United Kingdom 2010 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Santorini Black
I agree that's just a standard clutch and the friction material has come off, you can see it in one of the pics.

That is just sustained abuse, as if someone was deliberately trying to destroy the clutch, it much have been more or less on fire to do that to it. I'd be surprised if it hasn't cooked the surrounding oil seals too.
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24heuer



Member Since: 21 Jul 2015
Location: Edinburgh
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Scotland 2010 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 CSW Keswick Green
thanks all for the info so far.
so, standard clutch that has been destroyed through abuse by someone that doesn't know how to drive properly... Cheers,
Andy...
Edinburgh, Scotland
http://24heuer.com
Post #654863 4th Oct 2017 1:05pm
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LR90XS2011



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United Kingdom 2011 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Galway Green
Certainly agree that has been slipped for extended time to destroy it like that DEFENDER 90 TDCI XS,

I hope everyone is well and your land rovers make you happy
Post #654893 4th Oct 2017 4:23pm
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zsd-puma



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United Kingdom 2010 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Santorini Black
24heuer wrote:
thanks all for the info so far.
so, standard clutch that has been destroyed through abuse by someone that doesn't know how to drive properly...


Either that or someone deliberately set out to see how long it would last before it burned out. ie. slipping it while standing on the throttle. Shocked
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DieselBeast



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1998 Defender 90 300 Tdi PU Java Black
Seen a few of these. When you ride these clutches they seem to turn to powder in no time.

Agreed here, Standard clutch. Just well cooked.
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pj2106



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United Kingdom 2008 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Stornoway Grey
Speak to Ben at clutchfix he will be best to advise 👍👍 2008 110 2.4 XS Utility (Hagrid)
2002 90 TD5 Hardtop (Sully) Sold
1998 300TDi D1 (Billy) Sold
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