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The fourth one looks ok with a measured resistance of around 4-7 Ohm.
| miker Member Since: 13 Sep 2015 Location: Surrey Posts: 1769   
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For the cost of them, I'd probably just replace all 4. (And yes I mean 4, there isn't a fifth!)
From memory they are just a bit fiddly to get out, inlet manifold improves access, but obviously means you have to pull the manifold! |
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11th Sep 2017 4:04pm |
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| excossack Member Since: 22 Feb 2012 Location: North West Posts: 5889 
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A long reach socket and an extension and I can manage them.
I normally get the engine warm first to aid removal. 1999 Defender TD5 110 Regards John M0VAZ Econet Station 48 no clock |
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11th Sep 2017 5:27pm |
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| 4RF RDS Member Since: 19 Jul 2015 Location: Ottawa Posts: 959  
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As stated, yes there are only four so don't look too hard for a fifth one. The fifth was, during the design process of the Storm motors, deemed to be unnecessary. Just change em all. 2010 Range Rover MkIII Autobiography Super Charged (Idris)
2003 Range Rover Mk III (Desmond FitzWilliam) 2000 Defender 110 CSW TD5 (CTX) 1992 Range Rover Classic (Lizzy) 1972 Series III 300 Tdi (Stanwood) 1967 MGB GT Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats. H. L. Mencken (1880 - 1956) |
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12th Sep 2017 12:29am |
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| MadTom Member Since: 10 Sep 2013 Location: Olomouc Posts: 641  
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From my experience, glow plugs in TD5 engine are not really needed - TD5 was to only car that started 2 years ago in winter, when it was below -25°C outside. With engine running, I had to jump start more than 10 neighbours cars, mostly petrol powered. TD5 started, but not perfectly on first turn of engine, so next day I have measured current to glow plugs (with clamp meter), and to my surprise, it was 0 Amps = no working glow plugs.
And for sure, I have good charged battery, as big as possible, and the glow plugs were replaced. "Drobek" = The Small One - Discovery 2, "BlufĂnek" = The Blue Thing - Defender 130, and for me at least Ford Mondeo  |
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12th Sep 2017 6:27am |
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| gazman Member Since: 17 Aug 2015 Location: Liverpool Posts: 652 
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+1 I don't even wait for the glow plugs, I'm not even sure if they work because I had a problem with another relay(I think it was fuel pump) and swapped them over about 3 yrs ago. I've been meaning to get another one since. It starts better than my wires tdv6 disco and all the plugs work in that! 2014 - current ..... 2003 defender td5 90 (my car)
2009 - current .... 2005 zx10r |
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12th Sep 2017 10:04am |
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| 4RF RDS Member Since: 19 Jul 2015 Location: Ottawa Posts: 959
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The Td5 is agreat engine and does in fact start very well in rather cold climates. The issue with non functioning glow plugs is that you get poor mileage and sub optimal performance if the relay or units themselves are not working. The glow plug system in the Td5 actually will work continuously (on) while the engine is runnung until the coolant comes up to operating temperature and only then will they shut off. 2010 Range Rover MkIII Autobiography Super Charged (Idris)
2003 Range Rover Mk III (Desmond FitzWilliam) 2000 Defender 110 CSW TD5 (CTX) 1992 Range Rover Classic (Lizzy) 1972 Series III 300 Tdi (Stanwood) 1967 MGB GT Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats. H. L. Mencken (1880 - 1956) |
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12th Sep 2017 10:20am |
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| roel Member Since: 08 Aug 2009 Location: Lelystad Posts: 2039  
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I thought most of you would understand the joke that I didn't bother looking for the fifth.
It is starting a bit better now the connector to the third glowplug is connected, so 2 working instead of one. 
I am planning to change all 4 off them however I might need to get the inlet manifold off as a socket with my short extension is to short to get my ratchet on and my longer extension won't fit between the socket and inlet manifold. Roel 1984 90 2.5 na Diesel - RR V8 (1994-2001) 1997 Camel Trophy Discovery 300TDI (2001-2009) 2005 G4 Discovery III 4.4 V8 (2008-2018) It's gone but it still hurts. 2003 90 Td5 (2009-now) |
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12th Sep 2017 10:43am |
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| roel Member Since: 08 Aug 2009 Location: Lelystad Posts: 2039
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Where do you fit the 5th one?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/5x-Bosch-Glow-Pl...SwB09YHM6H  Roel
1984 90 2.5 na Diesel - RR V8 (1994-2001) 1997 Camel Trophy Discovery 300TDI (2001-2009) 2005 G4 Discovery III 4.4 V8 (2008-2018) It's gone but it still hurts. 2003 90 Td5 (2009-now) |
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17th Sep 2017 9:34pm |
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| 4RF RDS Member Since: 19 Jul 2015 Location: Ottawa Posts: 959
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 you get a spare cause at least one will fail on you right after install. 2010 Range Rover MkIII Autobiography Super Charged (Idris)
2003 Range Rover Mk III (Desmond FitzWilliam) 2000 Defender 110 CSW TD5 (CTX) 1992 Range Rover Classic (Lizzy) 1972 Series III 300 Tdi (Stanwood) 1967 MGB GT Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats. H. L. Mencken (1880 - 1956) |
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17th Sep 2017 9:37pm |
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| roel Member Since: 08 Aug 2009 Location: Lelystad Posts: 2039
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Coming back to this thread: Changing the glow plugs helped a little but not much. So I tried the battery from my D3, that didn't help either
So I tried to test the battery cables by laying a jumper cable next to it, That didn't help either so the only thing else must be the starter motor. I did really think that would be the problem as it started always but needing 20 seconds or more if it was n't used for 12 hours or more. After 6 hours or less it started quickly. So I didn't think the starter motor would be the problem but it was. A td5 startermotor is not waterproof and as I use it off-road I know I have to clean it sometimes. This time when I took it out it was very difficult to turn it by hand. Even when I had the motor part apart it turned very difficult so I took the gearing part apart and the grease in there was more or less solid. I cleaned it out and put some new grease in there and now it starts within a second. I didn't expect that grease could have that effect. Roel 1984 90 2.5 na Diesel - RR V8 (1994-2001) 1997 Camel Trophy Discovery 300TDI (2001-2009) 2005 G4 Discovery III 4.4 V8 (2008-2018) It's gone but it still hurts. 2003 90 Td5 (2009-now) |
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