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chopdogs



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Puma rear seats into a TD5
Is it possible to fit Puma rear seats (forward facing folding type) into a 90 TD5?

If so, is it relatively easy?

Thanks
Post #36523 18th Jul 2010 3:42pm
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AdrianCR



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Post #36530 18th Jul 2010 5:17pm
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ibexman



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I think he means the seats from a 90 theres an article on this on defender 50th forum yes it can be done
Post #36540 18th Jul 2010 11:39pm
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chopdogs



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United Kingdom 2008 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Stornoway Grey
To clarify:

I'm wondering if I can remove the side facing seats from a 90 TD5 and replace with the forward facing seats from a 90 Puma

Currently the kid sits in the front and SWMBO sits in the back - constantly moaning Whistle

Would like to remedy this situation.........

So the question is:

1/ Is it possible

2/ Is it easy to find seats

3/ Is it relatively easy to do the work

Thanks in advance
Post #36544 19th Jul 2010 9:19am
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MK



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chopdogs wrote:
To clarify:

I'm wondering if I can remove the side facing seats from a 90 TD5 and replace with the forward facing seats from a 90 Puma

Currently the kid sits in the front and SWMBO sits in the back - constantly moaning Whistle

Would like to remedy this situation.........

So the question is:

1/ Is it possible

2/ Is it easy to find seats

3/ Is it relatively easy to do the work

Thanks in advance


1) Yes
2) yes, expensive. Try also Exmoor trim.
3) yes, bear in mind the internal fender“s shape is a bit different Puma 110" SW

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Post #36547 19th Jul 2010 10:41am
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Mad Cow



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Exmoor trim seems to be the way to go, much cheaper than sourcing genuine Puma Seats.

http://www.exmoortrim.co.uk/images/stories/catalogue/cat.pdf

If the kids are big enough not to use child seats/boosters you can use these ones

http://www.brookwell.co.uk/item/4768/forward-facing-fold-up-l-h

Otherwise they do a better version with built in seat belt post mounting (like the LR seats). They are in the catalogue (Page 21) but I can't find a price? MAD COW

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chopdogs



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United Kingdom 2008 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Stornoway Grey
Thanks to all who have responded

I need a seat suitable for use with a child seat - so settled on the lock & fold

Here's what Exmoor say

"Thank you for your enquiry. At this time our Lock & Fold are not available as they are being re-designed.
We envisage that the new seat will be launched at the end of August.
As you can appreciate the frames have to undergo rigorous testing before they receive certification"


chopdogs
Post #36690 21st Jul 2010 11:14am
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Paul_1978



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Im thinking of doing the same. The land rover seats look the business.

Ive had a price, the seats are 409 for cloth and 468 for leather, been told to allow 400 for brackets etc.
Trying to get more info.
Post #37115 27th Jul 2010 7:10am
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chopdogs



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Hi Paul

Is that £408/469 per pair? If so, can you buy just one seat?

Also, £400 seems very expensive for brackets when compared to the cost of the seats.........

Thnaks for the info



chopdogs
Post #37205 28th Jul 2010 8:13am
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Paul_1978



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The price is per seat, im awaiting confirmation on the brackets.

The price is from TLO on the D3 forum, top guy, hes the parts manager and a land rover dealer, very helpfull.
Post #37328 30th Jul 2010 4:26pm
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bpman



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the rear tub of the puma has been significantly reinforced to accomodate the forward facing seats.

it would be possible to fit the puma forward facing, but some metal work would need to be added under the wheel arches.

if you need some pictures, pm me and I will email you some.
Post #38140 15th Aug 2010 6:20am
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Hi
I've joined this forum as I have the same situation of wanting to fit forward facing seats in my SW 90.

Back in Dec, I was going to buy the cheaper ones Exmoor trim were selling, but following a visit to the factory, I decided to wait, as they were having a new fabric arriving, which was a better matched against the 50th anniversary cloth in mine. seven months on and the cloth is still not available due to a set back, so decided to order the cheaper version in black.

Turns out these are now obsolete and only the approved fold and lock are on offer, which are now being upgraded to a newer version 2 Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad

Due to the cost of the F&L version I could buy Puma ones cheaper, but don't want to modify my bodywork to fit.

Question is?? could I fit Puma ones without modifying the bodywork??
As it's going to cost well over £1K to buy the Exmoor ones, or I'm thinking I could use my inward facing one and have a pair of bespoke brackets made to convert them to FF ones, that way the cloth would all match..

Any thoughts anyone Question
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LandRoverAnorak



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The short answer is probably no. Whilst anything is possible, they'd need a lot of modification as if mounted to the normal height wheel boxes they wouldn't reach the floor. None of the standard bracketry would fit and would have to be re-made or substantially altered. Plus they'd be so high that they'd only suit short passengers. Darren

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Post #637136 12th Jul 2017 1:35pm
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zsd-puma



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The biggest issue it the wheel arches on Puma vehicles have a step on them. If you cut out the corner of the existing wheel arch and re-created the puma step the rest is quite easy as it's all bolt on stuff. The Re-enforcing plate under the wheel arch just bolts on too.
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ChrisCM



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United Kingdom 2010 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Santorini Black
I was researching this subject as SWMBO has a Puma 90 ex pick up with the square wheel boxes, I have a Puma 110 SW and have removed the two rearmost seats and wanted to fit them into the 90, same as the TD5, the problem is the square wheel box, you can purchase a replacement profile, which means cutting out part of the wheel box. You also have to re-inforce and sort out the seat belt mounts. The cost is several hundred pounds without the seats. In your situation I would go for the Exmoor seats, even though I have the Puma seats I think we'll probably go for the Exmoor seats as I think they'll be easier to fit (I'll have to get saving though!)

See my thread : http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic55196.html

Chris 2010 Defender 110 Station Wagon, Santorini Black.
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