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gilarion



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And if you really wish to go the whole hog invest in a Shocklink

http://dixon-bate.co.uk/products/no/shockl...coup-.html

You will not believe the difference it makes while towing.

More information if required can be found doing a search for Shocklink on this forums search option. For those who like Welsh Mountains and narrow boats have a look at my videos and photos at..

http://www.youtube.com/user/conwy1
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ARC99



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And if you really wish to go the whole hog invest in a Shocklink

Thumbs Up Don't make old people mad.
We don't like being old in the first place,
so it doesn't take much to Censored us off.

Richard
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blackwolf



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Interesting that the DB info clearly states that the Shocklink is ...

Dixon Bate wrote:

Designed for use on 4 x 4 and light commercial vehicles up to a max. gross weight (GVW) 2800kgs ...


... which is a lower GVW than that of a Defender.

I presume however that there are no issues arising?
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gilarion



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None what ever. Smile

The other thing worth mentioning is that some caravan warranties state that you can invalidate the warranty towing with a Defender and certainly with a series. By fitting a Shocklink that makes everything OK. It is to do with the stiffness of the springs that can transfer shock into the caravan sub frame via the tow ball this can result in delamination of the caravan panels especially the floor. A Shocklink absorbs all the shocks. For those who like Welsh Mountains and narrow boats have a look at my videos and photos at..

http://www.youtube.com/user/conwy1
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miker



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It's a little upsetting to me that the caravan makers don't make caravans tough enough to be towed by a decent sized vehicle!

How does the shocklink work?

Is it sprung, Hydraulic, elastomer?
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gilarion



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Shocklink 'floats' in a vertical direction as the trailer reacts to changes in the road surface. The Shocklink uses two springs and a rubber snubber to effectively absorb up to 70% of the load. resulting in a much smoother ride and reducing the potential risk of damage to the trailer.



The Dixon-Bate Shocklink fits between the towing vehicle and trailer - it absorbs drawbar shock and vibration.

It works belive me it may be expensive but every penny is worth it. Thumbs Up

I tow both a caravan and at times a horse box (two horses) and I would not be without it, Towing a carvan is so much better, if you are towing a trailer with animals it is a must. For those who like Welsh Mountains and narrow boats have a look at my videos and photos at..

http://www.youtube.com/user/conwy1
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Stacey007



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Great help all.


The new vans we were looking at had another stability type thing, salesman said it was like a traction control. So when a large bus says comes past and you get a bit of a sway.. it takes that away.

They have certainly come on a bit Smile


Think my idea is to go the dixon bate set up. Although my Sankey hitch seems to sit higher (level)
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gilarion



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Yep! Clever bit of gadgetry it works via an intelligence board on the caravan that detects a sway and applies the brakes on one side or the other in a series of controlled pulses that bring the caravan back into a straight line. For those who like Welsh Mountains and narrow boats have a look at my videos and photos at..

http://www.youtube.com/user/conwy1
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blackwolf



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^^ Now that is clever!

The only trouble is it will probably encourage some people to take less care loading and to drive faster, because they now can without additional peril. As a result, when it does all go wrong it will be worse than before.
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Iggle piggle



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My caravan has Electronic ATC & towcar (Ford Ranger) has trailer sway control,

it is very reassuring to feel the caravan brakes applying & steering tightening when white van man or national express come flying by! Shocked

But yes like everything else it can make you feel a little over confident & then the speed creeps up! Whistle
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Dasher



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My van, a Bailey Pegasus GT65 Bolognia, also has ATC and the Alko hitch with stabiliser built in. I use a standard tow ball on the 110 (not a Dixon Bate or drop plate type). I do have to remove the handle on the Alko hitch - and even then the 'prongs' that remain are very close to the spare wheel - but they do pass without fouling it. I have a 20mm spacer between the ball and the bar assembly,

I've never had a problem with disintegrating pads - but I do check them regularly. I did however leave one of the older Bulldog type stabilisers on the A50 somewhere between Trentham Gardens and Nottingham and so have avoided that type ever since!

One thing that I do get an issue with, especially in warmer weather (like in France at the moment) is that I get some form of pressure wave and the rear mudflaps have developed a habit of flipping inwards and running on top of the wheel. It has usually been the offside but this week both sides have suffered. The fix is to limit the travel of the 'flap with plastic link ties - inelegant but effective.
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Paulv8



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If you have an Alko hitch and have trouble getting hitched up because it fouls the spare wheel, just hitch up with the rear door open.... it works for me. V8 90...WIP
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Stacey007



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^ I tried that....


The hand brake even in the lowest (off) position would not allow the door to shut....
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Paulv8



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Ooh damn....

I just bought the Alko 4x4 handle on ebay for ten quid... i am hoping it saves me having any issue from here on V8 90...WIP
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Paulv8



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Stacey007 wrote:
^ I tried that....


The hand brake even in the lowest (off) position would not allow the door to shut....


With the ball on the lowest position it would though wouldn't it? It's where mine is fitted V8 90...WIP
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