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Rallymental



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Brendan, does v2 involve any drilling or cutting?
I fancy the idea of one but not really happy about drilling holes or cutting about my door card Shocked The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again but expecting different results.
Solihull, 1948 - "If we paint the chassis, it will last for years"
Solihull, 2015 - "If we paint the chassis.............................
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Butchers Boy



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Rallymental - I just fitted the V2 there are four holes you have to drill but they are behind the rear door card to fit the new bracket which you cant see once you put the door card back on... Thumbs Up


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Rallymental



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Thumbs Up thanks
So would you recommend? The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again but expecting different results.
Solihull, 1948 - "If we paint the chassis, it will last for years"
Solihull, 2015 - "If we paint the chassis.............................
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Butchers Boy



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I wasn't sure to start with but only because I thought it had a soft close action like the one below in the video.... Big Cry



My fault if you look at the reflection of the guy closing the door he continues to push the door closed on the rear wheel but looks like the gas strut is closing the door for him once the door gets to within a foot of the door frame...... Embarassed

In terms of opening the rear door, not letting it swing back if parked on a hill or blown shut on a windy day - yes I'd recommend it... Thumbs Up 2010 Defender 90 HT

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Rallymental



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Thumbs Up Cheers!
Yeah the closing on the back can be a bit painful!![/img] The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again but expecting different results.
Solihull, 1948 - "If we paint the chassis, it will last for years"
Solihull, 2015 - "If we paint the chassis.............................
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Stacey007



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I have this and it works great



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Wife has trouble closing the boot though, she is only 5ft nothing and small... she struggled without this Smile
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JOW240725



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Butchers Boy wrote:
My fault if you look at the reflection of the guy closing the door he continues to push the door closed on the rear wheel but looks like the gas strut is closing the door for him once the door gets to within a foot of the door frame...... Embarassed


I'm glad you pointed that out, I thought it looked like soft close too! James
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churchy



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Took delivery of the mud one today and tried to fit - bought a riveter from screwfix but it doesn't seem to be man enough for the job?! I couldn't squeeze it enough to get the rivet to pop. User error or do I need a more powerful riveter like the concertina type as opposed to the squeeze type? I realise they are heavy duty rivets so now my gas strut costs me £115 if you include a decent riveter!!!!
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leeds



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Churchy the squeeze type riveters can be a two handed job to set the rivets correctly.

Alternative if you can not source a decent riveter easily is to use some small rivnuts. You will be drilling a slightly larger hole so take care you do not drill through the door's outer skin.


Someone did try to copy the rear door strut and saved some pennies by buying cheap easy to set rivets and promptly run into other issues!


Brendan
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Cupboard



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United Kingdom 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 HT Corris Grey
I used a quick clamp (one of the ones with an action like a silicone gun) on the handles of my riveter to do them. Entirely because I was too lazy to go and borrow the lazy tongs from across the road.

Lazy tongs make the job much easier.
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Gonarezhou



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I recently fitted the type supplied from Brendan. Yes, it was hectic to get the rivets to snap but it can be done with a measure of force - even using a standard Stanley type gun. The modification is fantastic! No more banged arms or shoulders when opening on a slope. And no it does not self-close .... in fact there is a resistance when closing the door. Yay, no more slamming of the rear door by the arbitrary passenger. The pressure to open the door of the gas strut takes a little getting used to but I do like watching the door open unassisted. One of the better mods I have done to my MY2014....along with the MUD fascia mod that redirects the airflow from the lower vent into the footwell and not directly onto your calf (third-degree burns in winter, cramps in summer). Why this was not done by the manufacturer can only be attributed to sheer laziness and cost saving. Along with the ridiculously antiquated heater/cooling control mechanism as discussed in other threads.
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blackwolf



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey
I bought one of these to set larger sized pop rivets (or breakstem fasteners as they should properly be called, since "POP rivet" is a trademark of Emhart-Tucker):

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Eclipse-By-Spear...1741555682

Makes setting the big ones so effortless!
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churchy



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Thanks all - funnily enough I tried the clamp technique too but still no joy. Lazy tong it is then.
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churchy



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New lazy tongs purchased and it was all attached before my tea had gone cold! Very happy although the door card seems to pop at the bottom when I shut the door so maybe I need to adjust?
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leeds



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Churchy, chances are you need to adjust the rear door card! The inside of the door card can be a bit uneven so either remove any obvious lumps or with a hot air gun/hair dryer gently warm up the area close to the beginning of the ‘bulge’ for original door stay and push it outwards slightly.

HTH


Brendan
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