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| Paulv8 Member Since: 09 Jun 2013 Location: Milton Keynes Posts: 618  
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Does anybody know what the correct grease is for the pilot bearing then? V8 90...WIP
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19th Jun 2017 8:52pm |
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| g-mack Member Since: 07 Jan 2014 Location: northumberland Posts: 1967 
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i don't even know what the pilot bearing is
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19th Jun 2017 10:02pm |
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| Paulv8 Member Since: 09 Jun 2013 Location: Milton Keynes Posts: 618
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Also known as a spigot bearing V8 90...WIP
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19th Jun 2017 10:31pm |
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| g-mack Member Since: 07 Jan 2014 Location: northumberland Posts: 1967
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ah got ya
 sorry never done one so can't help  My 109 thread
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19th Jun 2017 10:39pm |
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| Paulv8 Member Since: 09 Jun 2013 Location: Milton Keynes Posts: 618
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I had a feeling that would be at least one answer so you still get ten Internet points. V8 90...WIP
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19th Jun 2017 10:41pm |
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| Disco_Mikey Member Since: 16 Nov 2014 Location: Dundee Posts: 531  
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Soak it in engine oil for 48 hours, and fit to crankshaft
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20th Jun 2017 6:01am |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17372 
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Spigot bushes (and indeed similar bushes) are traditionally made from a porous sintered and usually bronze based material which is vacuum impregnated with oil at manufacture. In the old days it was recommended to soak them in SAE30 oil for 24 hours prior to fitment. They are generally considered to be fit-and-forget, except on the TD5 when they squeal like pigs at the slightest opportunity.
When I bought my Disco2 in 2002, one of the service actions was to replace the bush, because there was a bad batch which hadn't been lubricated properly. Fifteen years later and it is starting to squeal a little again now and then. I imaging that any good-quality, fairly light, lithium based grease will do no harm, but apply very sparingly since you don't want it getting on the clutch. |
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20th Jun 2017 7:35am |
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| Disco_Mikey Member Since: 16 Nov 2014 Location: Dundee Posts: 531
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£6 for a new bush from Land Rover v's taking the gearbox out again I know what I'd be doing |
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20th Jun 2017 7:55am |
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| Paulv8 Member Since: 09 Jun 2013 Location: Milton Keynes Posts: 618
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Thank you blackwolf. V8 90...WIP
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20th Jun 2017 8:32am |
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| 4wheeler Member Since: 13 Apr 2010 Location: Melbourne Posts: 87  
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Just a word of warning which may be warranted or maybe not from my experience a few years ago.
I know the Ford Transit with the 2.4 engine is not the same vehicle but the components are fairly similar. At 130,000 km (my work van) I felt at times that occasionally when stopping and selecting first gear, the gear would grab a little even though the clutch was depressed. It happened a couple of times. I first thought I wasn't depressing the clutch pedal far enough. Waiting at the traffic lights early one morning, there was a graunching sound (is that even a word?) and the vehicle lurched forward ever so slightly. I pulled over, switched everything off, checked everything, restarted and off I went. From that point on for a number of weeks there was occasionally a strange noise which I could not identify. I took the car to the local dealer and explained what had happened. They tested the vehicle and it even made the noise I was concerned about while being driven. The mechanic seemed to think it was no concern but I was not happy and felt it must be clutch or gearbox related. Against the mechanics advice I asked them to drop the gearbox and investigate further. What was found was that the spigot bearing had collapsed and was binding on the end of the input shaft to the gearbox. The shaft end was cactus and as the van had done 130,000 km it was also decided to replace the clutch and flywheel. Bottom line was near $6000.00 AUD bill and a vehicle off the road for near 3 weeks as the dealer fiddled around waiting to get the box repaired. All this for a $30.00 bearing. No explanation as to the reason for failure and the dealer said they had not seen this failure before. Obviously a good part of the bill was for a new clutch and flywheel but there would not be much change from $3500.00 if just the gearbox shaft was involved given parts and labour cost to repair. So while the part might be cheap, make sure you lubricate it correctly or it could be costly. |
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20th Jun 2017 10:45am |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17372
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^^ Indeed, a good point. People also nowadays seem to spend far more time with the clutch held out, or riding the clutch, than in the past, and this will of course wear the spigot bearing more (there is only ever movement of the input shaft in the spigot bush when the clutch is out, and the bearing really isn't intended to be very heavy duty).
So if you want a long trouble free life from both your clutch release bearing and your spigot bearing, drive properly and use the clutch properly!
I am please to put your mind at rest, "sound" is definitely a word!  |
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20th Jun 2017 11:57am |
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| Paulv8 Member Since: 09 Jun 2013 Location: Milton Keynes Posts: 618
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You can replace any and all parts. But...and it's a big but, new isnt always good. I've had to replace a thrust bearing that was 2000 miles old before after it broke down, so replacing with new isn't always a good call. I have taken the decision to not replace the spigot bearing because I believe it to be in good condition and have had two independent Land Rover specialists give me the same advice. They didn't tell me what grease to use tho
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20th Jun 2017 12:05pm |
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| MK Member Since: 28 Aug 2008 Location: Santiago Posts: 2414 
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A while back I used NGLI-3 shell grease and it has been going fine. Puma 110" SW
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20th Jun 2017 12:40pm |
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| Paulv8 Member Since: 09 Jun 2013 Location: Milton Keynes Posts: 618
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Thanks MK V8 90...WIP
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20th Jun 2017 8:11pm |
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