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Rallymental



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We knew it was coming
But maybe not how unfair it would be.......
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-44...urope.html The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again but expecting different results.
Solihull, 1948 - "If we paint the chassis, it will last for years"
Solihull, 2015 - "If we paint the chassis.............................
Post #622076 6th May 2017 7:49am
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ericvv



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What's unfair about that? Only thing not right is that it does not work both directions yet, but that is just a matter of time, this here is a good start which already exists on the entire continent for years.
Eric You never actually own a Defender. You merely look after it for the next generation.
http://youtu.be/yVRlSsJwD0o
https://youtu.be/vmPr3oTHndg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GtzTT9Pdl0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABqKPz28e6A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLZ49Jce_n0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvAsz_ilQYU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8tMHiX9lSw
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dxwjPuHIV7I
https://vimeo.com/201482507
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSixqL0iyHw
Post #622085 6th May 2017 8:28am
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Rallymental



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It's the both directions thing I'm talking about Eric.
If you speed, you get caught, you pay the fine. But not if you're an eu driver in the U.K. It seems. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again but expecting different results.
Solihull, 1948 - "If we paint the chassis, it will last for years"
Solihull, 2015 - "If we paint the chassis.............................
Post #622087 6th May 2017 8:35am
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barbel jim



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Its been like that for years our end Rolling Eyes
Post #622088 6th May 2017 8:47am
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ericvv



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Don't worry Rallymental. Won't ever come to drive in your country where everybody continuously drives on the wrong side of the road. Rolling Eyes That should be fined too. Laughing
Eric You never actually own a Defender. You merely look after it for the next generation.
http://youtu.be/yVRlSsJwD0o
https://youtu.be/vmPr3oTHndg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GtzTT9Pdl0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABqKPz28e6A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLZ49Jce_n0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvAsz_ilQYU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8tMHiX9lSw
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dxwjPuHIV7I
https://vimeo.com/201482507
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSixqL0iyHw
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Caterham



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It' a bit like that in Birmingham.

Also coming up the M1 the other day in 50mph average speed zone some Ford Galaxy come past doing about 70mph. Dodgy looking bunc inside with French plates Evil or Very Mad
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ericvv



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Post #622095 6th May 2017 9:41am
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mse



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ericvv wrote:
Don't worry Rallymental. Won't ever come to drive in your country where everybody continuously drives on the wrong side of the road. Rolling Eyes That should be fined too. Laughing
Eric


I know Europe's full of people on the wrong side Rolling with laughter

There are many many things wrong with the speed limits and motoring approach in the UK, fundamentally im against this access to details stuff, eitherway or any way - its wrong, but that is more about personal freedoms than anything else...unfortunately its a wider point that people seem not to care about.

I suppose the size of the fine is interesting, but what i do like about the Europe (and there are many things i do) is very few have the silly licence points system - which only highlights how screwed up the UK is in wanting to prosecute everyone for anything.

What does bug me, having driven thousands of miles in Europe - some countries (France) would probably target British drivers, ignore french drivers, regardless of the the actual offence...one reason i just avoid France! Mike
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Riverboy



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Rolling Eyes

The French police "target" people who break the law no matter what the nationality. They are as strict with French nationals as they are with foreigners. Unfortunately many Brits seem to think the law doesn't apply to them over here Rolling Eyes
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ian series 1



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Very true!
When we were living in Normandy every Brit seemed to think it was ok to get tanked up at a friends house, or local bar then jump in the car and drive home Shocked
Even though the limit was lower than the UK.

They all seemed to work along the lines as it was rural, there would be no Police around??
Their attitude to the law was quite poor really, I wouldn't have wanted to mess with the police over there! 80" 80" 86" 88" 90"

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JJ



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What a shockingly terrible piece of journalism. No facts or references to the law in question so we can corroborate the claim. Just sensationalism bordering on xenophobia.

It makes me doubt the validity of the whole story. HR064 Hampshire and Berkshire 4x4 Response
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Riverboy



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Usual Daily hate Mail then Rolling Eyes Laughing
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blackwolf



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The good thing about speeding fines is that they are entirely voluntary - if you don't speed you don't have to pay them.
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Birdy



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Riverboy



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In defence of the Daily Mail. 53.4% of the British public wouldn't have a clue about politics without it.
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