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| Grenadier Member Since: 23 Jul 2014 Location: The foot of Mont Blanc... Posts: 5804   
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Has anyone played around with CAD designs for a double din dash that sacrifices the clock and slit vents and allows the double Din unit to be mounted at 30 degrees off vertical so that it sits higher, the screen can be more easily viewed, and controls accessed. More like a modern car? Andrew S did this with a computer screen, but has anyone taken it to the next level? I'm not a fan of the standard double Din position, too low imho, and think this would be a much cleaner option.
 Click image to enlarge Or, alternatively, used an A/M stand alone screen as seen in a Merc etc, avoiding any double Din modding at all? Note that this second version would be not just for Sat Nav, which obviously is possible with the 7" screens, but full stereo control, plus phone etc....
This is the Dash removed: Click image to enlarge As far as I can see it, you would need to block the middle vents, fairly useless anyway, cut that gold coloured metal bar down (which I think supports the Dash and the back of a standard stereo) and CAD design a new fascia with a housing that would be roughly in line with the round adjustable vents, the screen being slightly more upright than in Andrew S's version. Similar to this below, just less fugly. 
Click image to enlarge Monsieur Le Grenadier I've not been everywhere, but it's on my list..... 2011 Puma 110DC - Corris Grey |
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21st Apr 2017 6:15am |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17372  
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I'll be interested to see how this thread develops since precisely the same idea was in my mind.
(The "gold bar" is largely redundant anyway - mine isn't fitted any more - since many HUs no longer reach it.) |
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21st Apr 2017 7:28am |
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| Riverboy Member Since: 16 May 2016 Location: French sector, Earth Posts: 1288 
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I agree its position is a tad low but not as low as many cars. When its flat its not so easy to view but if you buy a head unit that you can angle as mine does, it really makes it so much easier to view. Cheaper than hacking your dash to bits.
It automatically closes when you turn the ignition off and returns to the angled position when you start up and you can adjust the angle to suit. This is the Pioneer AVIC-F88DAB. Fantastic head unit, even includes a grumpy woman that tells me off if I go over the speed limit 
Click image to enlarge Last edited by Riverboy on 21st Apr 2017 8:55am. Edited 2 times in total |
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21st Apr 2017 8:41am |
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| Grenadier Member Since: 23 Jul 2014 Location: The foot of Mont Blanc... Posts: 5804
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Thanks Brendan, Never fail to be amazed by the positioning of stand alone SatNavs in some people's windscreens. 
I was thinking more along the lines of moving the top level switches to where the current radio is situated and then using the void, with newly created shroud, to place the Double Din. I've not taken measurements, but in my mind's eye I don't think the front needs to project any further forward than the face of the circular vents, nor should the height be any higher than the vents as well. In effect you would have to cut into the flat area that is currently situated between the vents and above the original switches, as far down as the radio. The void created would allow the double din to sit low and at an angle. I think it could work. Riverboy, salut. What head unit is yours with the variable fascia? Monsieur Le Grenadier I've not been everywhere, but it's on my list..... 2011 Puma 110DC - Corris Grey |
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21st Apr 2017 8:50am |
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| Riverboy Member Since: 16 May 2016 Location: French sector, Earth Posts: 1288
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Salut
 Its the Pioneer AVIC-F88DAB (Yeh I know we have no DAB here, but FM works great and all the UK radio stations are available though the Apple Carplay or Android apps) It also has a CD/DVD player and will play movies from your iPhone. Not that I use that I would recommend using that feature whilst driving I think its meant to feed to a rear screen if fitted. The built in satnav is great too |
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21st Apr 2017 8:51am |
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| Clemmo Member Since: 03 Aug 2012 Location: Mile Oak Posts: 1217  
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Hi Riverboy..
does the Pioneer unit open and move the screen in a downwards motion? Cheers Clemmo Make today a little better than yesterday but not so good as tomorrow....
Defender 90 HT............Pangea Green BMW X3 Msport............Carbon Black Mini Electric................Grey. (wow!) MGB Roadster……..........Vermillion 17k miles Honda Benly CD200....Maroon --------McLouis Fusio........7.4m of fun |
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21st Apr 2017 9:01am |
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| Wild Card 90 Member Since: 03 Dec 2014 Location: Gerlingen Posts: 1060 
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I absolutely agree that the usual double din position is not very effective.
It is too low, and it´s vertical orientation makes readind anything detailed off the display downright dangerous when on the move. I never the less opted for and fitted a double din receiver about a year back, as the menu options for the sound system and telephone are much easier to deal with. An excellent Garmin mounted low on the screen does the navigation duties. I really appreciate having the display at eye level and have got used to the fact that it blocks view to the far corner of the vehicle. It works, because the display panel is thin enough that, when needed, a small movement of the head eliminates the blind spot. However, a solution that would offer all functions in one display, placed directly above the clock/vent and look like it belonged there would be perfect. 1998 Tdi 90 SW, 2008 Td4 90 SW, 2012 2.2 90 SW, 2" raised Trailmaster/Terrafirma Heavy Track Raids, 255 MT´s, Recaro CS´s, anorak, wellingtons |
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21st Apr 2017 9:01am |
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| Riverboy Member Since: 16 May 2016 Location: French sector, Earth Posts: 1288
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Hi Clemmo. The bottom slides out and angles the screen upwards. It has three or four different angles and opens up completely to access the CD/DVD player. |
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21st Apr 2017 9:08am |
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| Grenadier Member Since: 23 Jul 2014 Location: The foot of Mont Blanc... Posts: 5804
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Well come on then, anyone got a CAD programme so we can see what it would look like?
 Monsieur Le Grenadier
I've not been everywhere, but it's on my list..... 2011 Puma 110DC - Corris Grey |
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21st Apr 2017 9:17am |
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| Wild Card 90 Member Since: 03 Dec 2014 Location: Gerlingen Posts: 1060
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Trying to keep up with this thread is tough. Riverboy, that is a smart head unit that offers a significant improvement
. Never seen one like that before!
I just checked to see how much my Garmin sits proud of the windscreen wipers  60 mm . Hmmm. 1998 Tdi 90 SW,
2008 Td4 90 SW, 2012 2.2 90 SW, 2" raised Trailmaster/Terrafirma Heavy Track Raids, 255 MT´s, Recaro CS´s, anorak, wellingtons |
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21st Apr 2017 12:01pm |
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| Caterham Member Since: 06 Nov 2008 Location: Birmingham Posts: 6298 
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Brendan - I take your point and it's very valid but I do wonder which is worse - obstructing forward visability due obsticles associated with the vehicle or obsticles worn on peoples heads. Perhaps drivers should have MOT also
Similarly when I had to wear a neck brace I chose not to drive due to the restrictions that put on me - others don't seem to have the same level of common sense. certainly not round here anyway. I'm sure some round here wear stuff that must greatly reduce peripheral vision and to my mind is dangerous......but I can't se anything being done about that anytime soon.  |
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21st Apr 2017 12:27pm |
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| BuckBlu110 Member Since: 19 Apr 2014 Location: in the pub Posts: 712 
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Have just found this and thought of this thread,
http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/112063759944 Looks as though the screen can be tilted and is higher than a normal double din, although a double din fascia is still needed by the looks of it. Was just an thought..... |
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7th May 2017 8:38am |
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| Miggit Member Since: 09 Mar 2017 Location: Milton Keynes Posts: 72
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wouldn't a single din slide out screen be an easier option? Something like this?
Click image to enlarge RRC 2.4 TD... it's either a stretched 90 or shrunken 110!! ML 270CDI |
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7th May 2017 2:11pm |
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| Riverboy Member Since: 16 May 2016 Location: French sector, Earth Posts: 1288
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Aren't they obsolete tech now? I couldn't find any single din slide out units with Carplay etc when I looked last year. It seemed they had all been discontinued and all the new units were double din.
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7th May 2017 3:34pm |
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