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Rashers



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United Kingdom 2014 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 USW Corris Grey
It actually amazes me there is still the amount of choice of head units after the major motor manufacturers integrated their radio / cd / mp3 into the dash boards.

Most modern vehicles are almost impossible to retro fit single din / double din head units without a) making it look a dogs dinner and b) losing some or a load of functionality ?

I suppose, apart from Defenders, there is still a market in Trucks, Tractors and Plant equipment for these head units?
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sako243



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Wales 1994 Defender 110 300 Tdi CSW Alpine White
Me me me, I have a CAD system, even one better I have a 3d printer. Hopefully the 3d printer is on the way back from Wales tomorrow (long story but basically you can blame my sister's hockey ball for it).

Unfortunately I don't have the time at the moment (just started stripping the front of the 110 to rebuild the dumb irons).

Maybe in a week or four...

Oh and I've thought about doing this unfortunately for a 300Tdi :p Ed
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Post #622455 7th May 2017 6:10pm
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Miggit



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You can still get them, they are just trying to punt the double din units cos they is cheaper to build... which more than can be said for the dash conversion for the Defender Shocked How Much?? .... Err I only want the double din dash adaptor, I have already brought the car! Rolling Eyes RRC 2.4 TD... it's either a stretched 90 or shrunken 110!!
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Riverboy



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I paid £1040 ex VAT for my double din conversion. That included a top of the range Pioneer head unit, DAB aerial, facia plate and all work which I thought was very reasonable.
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Miggit



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..... I've just picked myself up off the floor...... That's Range Rover Price territory, and I'm talking factory not aftermarket..

On fullfatrr.com there was a massive debate on what to replace the factory unit(s)(there are 6 in most setups) with, about 95% went for the cheap as chip Ping Pong specials running on the logic that if they went wrong after a few years, you could replace it with like for like quite a few times before you got into Alpine / Pioneer price territory... in fact it's around 3.5 to 1, so assuming that you get 2 years out of one.. how long are you going to keep the car for? 7 years + then quality is probably worth the investment, but if the answer is only a few years then it's not...

And to be honest I have an Alpine 2Din head unit in my Mercedes, and I'm not totally convinced that it's worth all the extra expense.. for a kick off almost everything is an option and has to be added on... the Chinese units come almost fully loaded.. The biggest single headache is the conversion, but once it's up and running it's all good!!

In fact I've stuffed one (Ping Pong special) in the RRC!!

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Admin note: this post has had its images recovered from a money grabbing photo hosting site and reinstated Mr. Green  RRC 2.4 TD... it's either a stretched 90 or shrunken 110!!
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meeerrrk



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United Kingdom 2010 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 HT Stornoway Grey
Been trying to decide if I should go double din or single fold out.

Double din more options, but an irreversible modification. Screen position not ideal as mentioned above.

Single din, limited choice of units, hazard switch difficult to press when deployed. Neat solution and reversible. Slightly more security concious. Cheaper than double din conversion. Screen position slightly better than double din.

I purchased a clarion fold out used from this site, for about £100 I am trying it out. So far so good, I think I'm swaying toward fold out!



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 My 90 Project : http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic52774.html
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Miggit



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Rolling Eyes Would it not be possible to relocate the switches to the side position but use a single din unit? surely that would be the best option Rolling Eyes

I have made some interesting discoveries googling DA2609 Whistle RRC 2.4 TD... it's either a stretched 90 or shrunken 110!!
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X4SKP



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United Kingdom 2010 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 SW Stornoway Grey
I have the Kenwood 526DVD (now discontinued) but the principle is a good one...
(all considered with the standard arrangements for a Puma Dash)...


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Single Din Unit


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Screen (on top of unit) deploys outwards and then lifts up from the rear...


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All usual features...


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Unit allows fine adjustment of the 'parking position' of the Display... In / Out and Angle

Semi obscured buttons can be pressed (although not ideal)...but one button press to send
Display 'home' within Dash, maintaining any current function


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limited choice of vehicles for the Sat Nav...but 'Jeep' like option is OK SKIP
https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic83242.html
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meeerrrk



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That looks like a nice unit Skip. My 90 Project : http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic52774.html
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RockJaw



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United States 2013 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 SW Santorini Black
What's wrong with seicane?
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blackrock



Member Since: 01 May 2022
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United Kingdom 2012 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 SW Firenze Red
Re: Alternative Double Din Dash
Grenadier wrote:
Andrew S did this with a computer screen, but has anyone taken it to the next level? I'm not a fan of the standard double Din position, too low imho, and think this would be a much cleaner option.


Any details about this computer? I'm thinking of putting a computer somewhere for satnav and maybe some other stuff. it'd be nice to see some that are already done. Maybe a Raspberry Pi running open street map maps.

Andrew
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Mo Murphy



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Would using a tablet not be easier ? I use a tablet in mine, not integrated but on a Ram mount. Does satnav, other mapping, spotify etc. It's an easy off the shelf solution.
Mo The Land Rover 90 - Many are called, few are chosen.

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blackrock



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I had thought of using a tablet, but quite like the flexibility that a computer would give me. Satnav would have to be a GPS module plus probably open streetmap, which means updates to maps are easy. You also have the possibility of adding CAN to it, and a reversing camera display. It does require programming though.

Andrew
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matchap801



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United Kingdom 2009 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 CSW Zermatt Silver
I purchased a double din dash from eBay for Ā£75. Then an ATOTO F7 SE double din car play stereo from Amazon.
Took a bit of fettling but fit into the Landy really nicely. Great screen. CarPlay and android auto works a treat. 2009 Defender 90 CSW 2.4 TDCI.
Ex Army Mechanic still living the dream.
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Jeebs



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blackrock wrote:
I had thought of using a tablet, but quite like the flexibility that a computer would give me. Satnav would have to be a GPS module plus probably open streetmap, which means updates to maps are easy. You also have the possibility of adding CAN to it, and a reversing camera display. It does require programming though.

Andrew


You may find that this would fall foul of the Con and Use regs, specifically:

109.ā€”(1) No person shall drive, or cause or permit to be driven, a motor vehicle on a road, if the driver is in such a position as to be able to see, whether directly or by reflection, a television receiving apparatus or other cinematographic apparatus used to display anything other than informationā€”
(a) about the state of the vehicle or its equipment;

(b) about the location of the vehicle and the road on which it is located;

(c) to assist the driver to see the road adjacent to the vehicle; or

(d) to assist the driver to reach his destination.

(2) In this regulation ā€œtelevision receiving apparatusā€ means any cathode ray tube carried on a vehicle and on which there can be displayed an image derived from a television broadcast, a recording or a camera or computer.
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