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custom90

Member Since: 21 Jan 2010
Location: South West, England.
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MOT (A boring question!)

I'm aware that with Tow socket covers I believe or similar things if present a tester is not allowed to remove it.
Is this correct still?
What does this apply to?
Would it also include a spotlight covers also?

I don't think the spare wheel is included in an MOT anyway but I have a cover on that too.
I'm just interested to know about the Tow socket and spotlight covers mainly.

I think if there is a cover present it cannot be removed across the board but could be wrong.
Obviously no covers ever allowed on obligatory lights for obvious reasons. No Guts, No Glory.
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15th Apr 2017 9:20pm

Matt90

Member Since: 12 Jun 2016
Location: Leicester
Posts: 142

My 90 sailed thought its last mot with no advisories 😗🎶

15th Apr 2017 9:24pm

custom90

Member Since: 21 Jan 2010
Location: South West, England.
Posts: 20540

No Guts, No Glory.
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15th Apr 2017 11:05pm

Rallymental

Member Since: 17 Aug 2015
Location: The Garden of England
Posts: 468

2015 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Santorini Black

Not sure about lights but spare wheels are definitely tested if present. They're one of those weird ones; you don't have to have one but if you have it has to work.
I guess the same could be true of extra lights etc. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again but expecting different results.
Solihull, 1948 - "If we paint the chassis, it will last for years"
Solihull, 2015 - "If we paint the chassis.............................

15th Apr 2017 11:18pm

mk1collector

Member Since: 17 Sep 2009
Location: West Yorkshire
Posts: 6771

Mine had its mot last week and if the tester didn't know me it would have failed..... The reason being, I had given him the spare set of keys with no fuel cap key and apparently they have to check the fuel cap seal integrity

Ray
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15th Apr 2017 11:42pm

landroverdiver

Member Since: 13 Jun 2009
Location: Renfrewshire
Posts: 193

I have the standard lockable fuel cap and every MOT has an advisory that the temporary cap has to be replaced!

16th Apr 2017 6:42am

zsd-puma

Member Since: 09 Aug 2016
Location: Kent
Posts: 2720

2010 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Santorini Black

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not sure about lights but spare wheels are definitely tested if present

Not true, it's not a testable item. If a tester happens to notice that it's cracked and falling to bits they can give you an advisory for it, but it has never been a reason for failure.
Point 4.1 of the MOT inspection manual;

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This inspection applies to tyres fitted to the road wheels only. The vehicle presenter should be informed when it is noticed that there is a defective tyre on a spare wheel

Given that Defender wheels are usually hung on the back door and very visible they're easily noticed.

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MOT (A boring question!)
I'm aware that with Tow socket covers I believe or similar things if present a tester is not allowed to remove it.
Is this correct still?

That's not true either.
Section 1.9 MOT Manual

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Some tow bar electrical sockets are ‘hidden’ behind an access panel in the bumper or bodywork. Unless requiring the use of tools or specialist equipment, these panels must be removed to facilitate the inspection of the towbar socket

So a push on rubber cover isn't going to stop them looking.

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Would it also include a spotlight covers also?

Spotlights don't have to work in the MOT. However they are supposed to go out when the headlamps are dipped or have covers fitted to them if they don't(which effectively means they're no longer lamps). Other than that unless they have dangerously exposed edges or perhaps liable to fall off the vehicle they're not a fail.

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Obviously no covers ever allowed on obligatory lights for obvious reasons.

Almost. Clear plastic covers are ok, like the clear headlamp protectors Land Rover sell.

Usually in the manual it specifically says if a tester should remove a cover from an item to test it. Basically it's common sense. If it's just a push on cover like a trailer socket cover it'll say remove it if present. But they're not allowed to go dismantling half the car.

It's all here;
https://www.mot-testing.service.gov.uk/doc...000101.htm

16th Apr 2017 7:20am

zsd-puma

Member Since: 09 Aug 2016
Location: Kent
Posts: 2720

landroverdiver wrote:
I have the standard lockable fuel cap and every MOT has an advisory that the temporary cap has to be replaced!

Because the tester is an idiot.

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Mine had its mot last week and if the tester didn't know me it would have failed..... The reason being, I had given him the spare set of keys with no fuel cap key and apparently they have to check the fuel cap seal integrity

Not quite. It wouldn't have "failed" per se, but he could have refused to test it. The difference being if it failed they'd have charged you and issued you with a failure. However a refusal to test isn't chargable and they have to refund you if you've paid.

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If any of the following reasons apply, the test should not be carried out, the vehicle presenter informed and any fee paid for the test must be returned. It is therefore advised that ‘refusal’ items are checked before starting the test.....

.....g. A proper examination cannot be carried out because any door, tailgate, boot, engine cover, fuel cap or other device designed to be readily opened cannot be readily opened.

16th Apr 2017 7:28am

custom90

Member Since: 21 Jan 2010
Location: South West, England.
Posts: 20540

Some of it really does go beyond sensible conclusion lately I do admit. No Guts, No Glory.
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16th Apr 2017 9:53am

zsd-puma

Member Since: 09 Aug 2016
Location: Kent
Posts: 2720

My favourite is the "arse covering" advisories you get. like "covers fitted to engine bay, preventing inspection", which pretty much all modern cars have fitted from the factory these days.

So if the battery turns out to be insecure, the tester can't be blamed for passing it because it had two screws holding a cover on.

16th Apr 2017 12:11pm

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