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alastaid

Member Since: 03 Dec 2013
Location: York
Posts: 78

HELP HELP mad electrical problem

Hi,

Just went to do a quick little problem solving and got a full blown nightmare on my hands. So initial problem was that my horn wasn't working, after a long time checking fuses and continuity I suspected the 4 wink indicator unit I bought from Alive, disconnected the piggy back cables that come off the indicator stalk and lo and behold horn works. OK I thought no problem, take it off send it back.

Now for the real problem.

So disconnected the piggy back cables off the indicator stalk, then disconnected the piggy power cable off the switched ignition live off the back of the ignition barrel. Then put the original white cable on the back of the ignition barrel and the ignition came on (key was in, but off position), turned the key to ignition on and off, no difference, started the car, then switched key off, and engine still running, took key out and engine still running. Had to stall it to stop. Then disconnected the battery (alarm came on), no difference. So basically the ignition is stuck on with or without the key on.

What have I done, effectively I have only pulled off the switched ignition live, and put it back on, and ignition is stuck on.

Help please, need the car for tomorrow!

09 Puma btw

Thanks

Alastair

18th Mar 2017 7:30pm

apt100

Member Since: 05 Mar 2015
Location: Derbyshire
Posts: 1547

2016 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Aintree Green

deleted now you have put the rest of the post while I was typing...

Last edited by apt100 on 18th Mar 2017 7:41pm. Edited 1 time in total

18th Mar 2017 7:40pm

alastaid

Member Since: 03 Dec 2013
Location: York
Posts: 78

Sorry had a posting problem, hopefully you can see it now

18th Mar 2017 7:41pm

apt100

Member Since: 05 Mar 2015
Location: Derbyshire
Posts: 1547

No problem... yes can see the new post

18th Mar 2017 7:43pm

custom90

Member Since: 21 Jan 2010
Location: South West, England.
Posts: 20355

Sounds as if you have electrically connnetced ignition live to permanent live.

This would give you ignition live permanently live with or without the key.

As it is you need to keep the battery disconnected until you've sorted the issue or the battery will be drained. $W33T $0U7H3RN $UG4R
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18th Mar 2017 7:47pm

alastaid

Member Since: 03 Dec 2013
Location: York
Posts: 78

Steve, thanks, yes I would agree that is what I thought, but I only disconnected one wire and put the same one (albeit without the piggy back on) on the same tab, cant see how I could have done it?

18th Mar 2017 7:52pm

custom90

Member Since: 21 Jan 2010
Location: South West, England.
Posts: 20355

You should really have disconnected the battery first, I assume you didn't?

Are you 100% sure it was the same connection that was made?
Is there possibility something was disturbed in the same vicinity? $W33T $0U7H3RN $UG4R
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18th Mar 2017 8:09pm

alastaid

Member Since: 03 Dec 2013
Location: York
Posts: 78

OK, now sorted, Steve took your words to heart, it had to be the only answer, just couldn't see how.

So went back out, and wondered how I have done it. Then of course it fell into place. I had disconnected the piggy back cable by pulling out from behind without looking because you have a bit of spare cable. Then looked through the little hole you can see the back of the ignition barrel, with the cowls removed, and I could see a spare tab, which of course must have been the spare tab on the constant live. So when I went back out had a proper look, there was the correct tab, in an even more difficult position to get to, but hey ho, it is the solution.

Plugged it up properly and all is well. Thanks Steve for your wisdom, and yes I confess I didn't disconnect the battery, but in my defense I did only nip out to go and fix the horn, funny how one thing leads another.

Time for a beer,

Cheers Alastair

18th Mar 2017 8:59pm

custom90

Member Since: 21 Jan 2010
Location: South West, England.
Posts: 20355

Your welcome.
If it's very isolated circuit then not disconnecting the battery is okay for speed of work completion and ease.
The trouble is when working with various electrical bunched wiring in one place, in particular confined areas.
Is that you can easily cause a short by accident, you'd have no idea until a fault develops or once on the road and something doesn't work.

None the less, glad you've got it sorted.

I once left the hazard switch disconnected, thought nothing of it.
That was until I went out and only noticed my indicators weren't working when I got beeped at!

Luckily I hadn't gone far but it was interesting using hand signals to go back down the lanes to get home.

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18th Mar 2017 9:28pm

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