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mowcop



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United Kingdom 2008 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 CSW Zermatt Silver
Why won't my transfer box rear seal stop leaking?
Hi
I have changed the rear output seal several times and every time it ends up leaking within a couple of months.
Each time a set of handbrake shoes end up in the bin.
I have confirmed the breather isn't blocked & brought the 85 depth guide to ensure that the seals sit squarely and the right depth.
It's a 2007 tdci.
There isn't any noticeable play in the bearing.

Thanks
Martin
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ibexman



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I think they're all incontinent. Laughing
Post #606588 4th Mar 2017 7:47am
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Froglaise



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Yes, but JLR must have realised those stick on incontinence pads would just fall off after a mile or so!
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Alien



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Is it leaking from the seal or wicking down the splines?
I found this after a quick search after remembering talk of a recall.
http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic5697.html?highlight=p022 Cheers,
Kyle.
Post #606599 4th Mar 2017 8:38am
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Mo Murphy



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What state is the drive flange seal land in because you don't say that you've replaced the drive flange and if previous seals have worn grooves on the sealing land then any replacement won't last long.
Mo The Land Rover 90 - Many are called, few are chosen.

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Post #606607 4th Mar 2017 10:10am
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v8bobber



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United Kingdom 2008 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Java Black
Mine was leaking when I bought it. It was a handy way of knocking the price down! It happens on the TDci because when they put that particular engine in, it ended up that the gearbox sits on the slant with the back end down.

The oil eventually runs down the splines because of the angle. I can't remember exactly what it is you use but it's some kind of locking compound between the splines on the shaft and flange. Some googling should find out what it is you need.

Did mine a couple of years ago and hasn't leaked since
Post #606626 4th Mar 2017 11:55am
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mowcop



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United Kingdom 2008 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 CSW Zermatt Silver
I did fit a new drive flange one time but it still leaked!
I will seal the splines next time.
I get that constant slight smell of hot gear oil as it must flick the odd drop onto the exhaust.
Post #606657 4th Mar 2017 2:57pm
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L110CDL



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My transfer box gave up so a recon was put in and after 2 weeks the same happened to mine what has happened to yours, so i replaced the seal and the handbrake shoes and then after another 2 weeks the same happened again so went in again and changed the seal and the handbrake shoes and after another 2 weeks, guess what, yes it was doing the same thing, so by chance i was working close to my mechanic's place and popped in, the day was a very hot day and the oil was very warm, so we put her up on the ramp and we found the problem.... the oil was leaking between the seal and the transfer box casing, so they did a creative fix which stopped the oil coming out until another TB was at the workshop to change it over and once that was done, i have not had a leak again Thumbs Up The firm that the TB came from where good as gold, did not argue or complain, they sent another TB with in a few days Bow down

Hope this helps you Thumbs Up 1996 Golf Blue 300Tdi 110 Pick up.

Keeper.

Clayton.
Post #606802 4th Mar 2017 11:22pm
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roel



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Netherlands 2003 Defender 90 Td5 PU Caledonian Blue
I know you should replace your handbrake shoes when they had contact with oil, but I clean them with degreaser a few times and then rub them with sandpaper and I put them back. Till now they never failed the MOT on working only once on adjustment. 2 minute fix and it was OK. Roel

1984 90 2.5 na Diesel - RR V8 (1994-2001)
1997 Camel Trophy Discovery 300TDI (2001-2009)
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Post #606885 5th Mar 2017 11:19am
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nickhodgson



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Are you replacing the white felt washer that sits under the washer that holds the flange on? FRC2464 is the part number. 1995 300tdi Defender 90 P/UP
2011 Puma Defender 130 D/C
2000 300tdi Defender 110 P/UP
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Post #607224 6th Mar 2017 1:24pm
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mowcop



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United Kingdom 2008 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 CSW Zermatt Silver
I thought that that washer was no longer used?
Post #607331 6th Mar 2017 8:31pm
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excossack



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United Kingdom 1999 Defender 110 Td5 SW Caledonian Blue
My TC used to leak, no matter what, genuine parts, non gen parts sealant, no sealant still leaking.
Changed the TC (drastic) But after swapping out for a Disco one, I could inspect better and found some scratches on the inside were the seal sat. Now with the Disco one, all is well. (apart from towing, and long hills) 1999 Defender TD5 110

Regards
John M0VAZ
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Post #607335 6th Mar 2017 8:37pm
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derbywill



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England 2005 Defender 90 Td5 XS CSW Java Black
mowcop wrote:
I thought that that washer was no longer used?


The felt washer is still used.

Cheers

Will 2005 90 XS
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1968 88” 2A 200tdi
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Post #607393 6th Mar 2017 10:47pm
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mowcop



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United Kingdom 2008 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 CSW Zermatt Silver
New shoes, seal and felt washer fitted.
Seal fitted with flange sealant and loctite on the splines, all aligned with the proper alignment tool.
Fingers crossed
Post #610247 18th Mar 2017 7:21am
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