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barrowg



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Insulation and soundproofing
Can anyone help me with a cheap and reliable way to insulate and soundproof the majority of the vehicle (CSW 90) Been looking at doing this for a while to make it more of comfortable ride for the family whilst cutting out any small vibrations. any ideas? anything is appreciated
Cheers
George
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LandRoverAnorak



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A quick search will reveal lots of discussion about this, but this thread is a good starting point:

http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic19837....insulation Darren

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Post #606342 3rd Mar 2017 10:11am
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Stacey007



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I have started using 2mm Silent coat with a 8mm soft cell on top.


Done most of bottom part of car and front doors, Not done roof yet...

Easy to work with, relatively cheap as goes a long way I think a box of 2mm is around £75 soft cell I bought off the bay Smile


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Doors shut with more of a thud than a rattle can




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Soft cell on top and the the carpet over the top of this...




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Its quite a nice job, biggest improvements are the doors, the seat base and the boot. Its not quite... but better certainly up to 40mph. I did it before a long trip to France... Smile
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I've done similar to Stacey007.

2mm silent coat in front footwells trying to cover as much of the lower bulkhead as possible, transmission tunnel and all over seat boxes (actually sealing in the covers - I appreciate i'll have to Censored about with this as and when I need to get in there). I've then popped some camping mat followed by the standard matting on top.

The doors I did mainly with offcuts and not 100% coverage (as above, nice thud now).

I've also got quite a grunty exhaust. The back of mine was pretty exposed, so I have ply-lined the sides with camping mat between and acoustic material on top. I've wanged silent coat on the wheel arches and across the bed where possible. This has proved very effective. My roof is still all exposed, so will sort that next along with some kind of matting for the wheel arch/bench areas to sit on top of the silent coat.

The majority of noice now comes in through what I imagine is the top of the front bulkhead (directly from engine bay). So, also on this every-growing list is an engine bay acoustic cover/blanket (although not heard they make much difference - no pun intended). I think I also need to adjust my doors slightly. Quite a bit of noise coming through where the rubbers should be stopping it (I did recently replace but with cheap rubbers).

I can now have a conversation with somebody without shouting. I should also say that my engine etc. is tweaked slightly so it's just noisier than most anyway. I like to hear a bit of a hum though. I also think I have a nearside wheel bearing giving me some unwanted noise at times...and I have stupid big knobbly tyres that generate lots of droning (new AT tyres also on the list) TD5 Defender 90
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Post #606350 3rd Mar 2017 10:31am
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barrowg



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Stacey007 wrote:
I have started using 2mm Silent coat with a 8mm soft cell on top.


Done most of bottom part of car and front doors, Not done roof yet...

Easy to work with, relatively cheap as goes a long way I think a box of 2mm is around £75 soft cell I bought off the bay Smile


Click image to enlarge



Doors shut with more of a thud than a rattle can




Click image to enlarge




Soft cell on top and the the carpet over the top of this...




Click image to enlarge



Its quite a nice job, biggest improvements are the doors, the seat base and the boot. Its not quite... but better certainly up to 40mph. I did it before a long trip to France... Smile


Being 2mm thick does it really stop sound and vibrations that well? May try it if it does
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grafty99



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Silent coat is a deadener, it will stop panel resonance and vibration but will do very little for blocking sound. For that you need the thick closed cell foam as shown Thumbs Up 2002 90 Td5 Station Wagon
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Td5 90 Thread http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic50767.html
Tdi 110 Thread https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic69562.html
RRC Thread http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic54492.html
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Post #606410 3rd Mar 2017 1:25pm
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barrowg



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As shown where??
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huffhuff



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The picture above, with the D ring. The black stuff is closed cell foam/mat. I used old camping mats - not sure if its 100% the same stuff. TD5 Defender 90
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Post #606465 3rd Mar 2017 4:35pm
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Thumbs Up camping mat is similar. The main difference being that it isn't self adhesive and the rolls aren't as wide Thumbs Up 2002 90 Td5 Station Wagon
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Td5 90 Thread http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic50767.html
Tdi 110 Thread https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic69562.html
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barrowg



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huffhuff wrote:
The picture above, with the D ring. The black stuff is closed cell foam/mat. I used old camping mats - not sure if its 100% the same stuff.


does camping mats work just as well??
Post #606502 3rd Mar 2017 6:37pm
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Stacey007



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Hello

Sorry just seen this again...


The silent coat is 2mm thick a sort of metal front (seen on the inside of doors picture) and a sticky back..

Does it work.... Watch this.




Then I put the soft cell foam on top, 8mm thick just a spongy foam that has a sticky back. Bought off e bay similar to this I bought a 5m roll I think?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1m-Polyethylene-...Swwo1Xdjdf


Then I have the rear carpet over the lot and it all helps Smile
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barrowg



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how much did it take you to do the whole thing?

does anyone also know how much you'd need to fill a whole 90 roof, and how thick can you make it under the headlining?
Post #606541 3rd Mar 2017 8:25pm
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Stacey007



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Hello

So far I've done


Passenger footwell
Drivers footwell
Rear Footwell
Seat box and battery box
rear boot and up the sides to windows
Both front doors.


Mines a 110 SW


I still have some left. out of 2 bulk box's.. I need to do rear doors, backdoor, roof.


Unsure on roof though...don't fancy doing the headlining on my own.


I would guess 3 Bulk box's to do my 110SW if I do the roof..


Fairly cheap mod as you can do it yourself and quite easy. I bought a roller (like a decorators one to flatten the panels out) and some alloy silver tape to fill the joins (you can see this in my boot pic)


OOh and there is lots of talk you don't need to completely cover an area for it to work...


Thanks
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Re: Insulation and soundproofing
barrowg wrote:
Can anyone help me with a cheap and reliable way to insulate and soundproof the majority of the vehicle (CSW 90) Been looking at doing this for a while to make it more of comfortable ride for the family whilst cutting out any small vibrations. any ideas? anything is appreciated
Cheers
George

For deadening use self adhesive flashing as sold in Wickes cheap as chips Thumbs Up
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alwoodley72



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I've used the flashband fake lead stuff from toolstation, works pretty well especially on the bulkhead and it doesn't cut your hands to ribbons..! Also used camping mats on the roof with spray adhesive to good effect, best was 50 mm celotex on my Hicap pickup roof that was toasty warm!!

Cheers. Alex 98 300 tdi 90 project
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