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LandRoverAnorak

Member Since: 17 Jul 2011
Location: Surrey
Posts: 11324

That's exactly what the research linked to above says. It's nothing to do with lubrication or lack of it, but the zinc that's contained in the 2SO being deposited on the injectors. Darren

110 USW BUILD THREAD - EXPEDITION TRAILER - 200tdi 90 BUILD THREAD - SANKEY TRAILER - IG@landroveranorak

"You came in that thing? You're braver than I thought!" - Princess Leia

6th Jan 2017 9:08am

grafty99

Member Since: 15 Aug 2012
Location: North Devon
Posts: 4785

Reading further and doing some googling it seems that it could be harmful to common rail engines running high pressure pumps and tight injector tolerances.
I think for the Td5 which is basically the same a VAG pd diesel engines relatively low pressure with individual injector pumps it shouldn't cause any issues.
I have run 2 stroke oil in mine for about 80,000 miles so far without any fuel system failures - I'm not saying that makes me right but it certainly hasn't had and detrimental effect to my vehicle which still goes just as well as ever and is noticeably smoother and quieter when run with 2 stoke oil.
When I changed the injector seals about 12 months ago the injectors had zero carbon buildup.
Works for me anyway

2002 90 Td5 Station Wagon
1990 Vogue SE
Triumph Tiger Explorer 1200
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6th Jan 2017 11:16am

lightning

Member Since: 23 Apr 2009
Location: High Peak, Derbyshire
Posts: 2761

Surely if two stroke oil at 1% or whatever, made diesel better, and improved the running of the vehicle (many claim better mpg) the fuel companies would put it into the fuel.

As they spend fortunes developing these fuels to be better. Or does it mess up emissions?

7th Jan 2017 4:01pm

barbel jim

Member Since: 12 Dec 2012
Location: Northants
Posts: 1423

You'd have thought

One of the reasons given for the recent fuel price increase is that because vehicles these days are so frugal there not selling as much !
Oh and allegedly certain new cars looked after the penguins and passed certain emissions tests

7th Jan 2017 4:30pm

grafty99

Member Since: 15 Aug 2012
Location: North Devon
Posts: 4785

One thing is for sure, the oil companies and government want to sell as much fuel as possible!
Making it better so you use less is definitely not in their interest! That's why shell vpower and bp ultimate have a premium on them. They cost more to produce and there is a smaller market for it so they add 5p per litre to make up for the comparatively low sales volume.
Why do you think battery technology is advancing so slowly? Because the oil companies don't want it to advance at all! But that is a whole other can of
worms which I don't fancy opening! 2002 90 Td5 Station Wagon
1990 Vogue SE
Triumph Tiger Explorer 1200
Td5 90 Thread http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic50767.html
Tdi 110 Thread https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic69562.html
RRC Thread http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic54492.html
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7th Jan 2017 4:40pm

lightning

Member Since: 23 Apr 2009
Location: High Peak, Derbyshire
Posts: 2761

There are various stories of "revolutionary" engines being invented, and then the design is bought by some fuel company and mothballed.
Some years ago there was an engine which was supposed to pretty much run on water, the patent was bought (supposedly) by Ford and put away, as it would have rendered their new small engine design obsolete immediately.

7th Jan 2017 6:33pm

bogwert

Member Since: 02 Sep 2016
Location: Dundee
Posts: 194

Usually get around 300 until I fill it up.

Calculated on tank size and MPG, it should do 360miles until it's totally dry. Chris

2014 Discovery 4 TDV6 HSE
2003 Defender 90 TD5 CSW

7th Jan 2017 11:40pm

isacs

Member Since: 28 Aug 2015
Location: Leamington spa
Posts: 404

What wheels and tyres are you running Grafty?

8th Jan 2017 1:18pm

grafty99

Member Since: 15 Aug 2012
Location: North Devon
Posts: 4785

18" vbs nemesis with Hankook ventus 285/60r18

8th Jan 2017 6:00pm

isacs

Member Since: 28 Aug 2015
Location: Leamington spa
Posts: 404

Road tyres!! The secrets are coming out now

8th Jan 2017 6:50pm

grafty99

Member Since: 15 Aug 2012
Location: North Devon
Posts: 4785

No secrets, have openly said about them on my thread in the my defender section lol

8th Jan 2017 7:04pm

grafty99

Member Since: 15 Aug 2012
Location: North Devon
Posts: 4785

To be honest they are about the same as my 265/75r16 BFGoodrich all terrains

8th Jan 2017 7:05pm

geobloke

Member Since: 06 Nov 2012
Location: Nottinghamshire
Posts: 4410

Ok resurrecting an oldish thread but I have to show this because I think it is an awesome testiment to the Land Rover Defender and the TD5 engine.

After more than 171k miles it is still managing to get to (almost) 400 miles from a tank of fuel

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And better than that it still has a few miles in the tank too

This is on a 2003 110 CSW with full roll cage, winch out front, two adults, a weekends worth of dog training paraphernalia and many "comfort breaks". Super impressed.

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Marvellous Myfanwy (aka Miffy) the mile muncher...

21st Feb 2017 8:21am

excossack

Member Since: 22 Feb 2012
Location: North West
Posts: 5843

1999 Defender 110 Td5 SW Caledonian Blue

Best I have done so far is 320. I do find, though that the needle appears to drop quicker from half to a quarter, that 3/4 to half. 1999 Defender TD5 110

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John M0VAZ
Econet Station 48 no clock

21st Feb 2017 9:10am

geobloke

Member Since: 06 Nov 2012
Location: Nottinghamshire
Posts: 4410

Quote:
Best I have done so far is 320. I do find, though that the needle appears to drop quicker from half to a quarter, that 3/4 to half.

Yeah, this falls in to the "they all do that sir" category. You'd think that LR would manage to design a gauge and sender system that works in a linear fashion or at least was calibrated...

21st Feb 2017 9:19am

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