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c_eilersen

Member Since: 09 Oct 2016
Location: Copenhagen
Posts: 11

Any way to increase heat output from TD5 heated seats?

Hi Forum,

I have a 2006 TD5 soft top with factory fitted heated seats - during the winter I need all the heat I can get in the soft top and my heated seats doesnt seem to contribute with very much heat.. Both seats works but never get more than luke warm.

Is there any way to adjust/increase the heat output from the seats? supply more power, adjust a thermostat etc?

Christian

23rd Jan 2017 10:13pm

grafty99

Member Since: 15 Aug 2012
Location: North Devon
Posts: 4785

I don't think there is I'm afraid. Unless you install another set of heating pads on top of the standard ones? 2002 90 Td5 Station Wagon
1990 Vogue SE
Triumph Tiger Explorer 1200
Td5 90 Thread http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic50767.html
Tdi 110 Thread https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic69562.html
RRC Thread http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic54492.html
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23rd Jan 2017 10:16pm

geobloke

Member Since: 06 Nov 2012
Location: Nottinghamshire
Posts: 4410

Hi Christian. Could it be that your 2006 seat heaters are getting a little old and ineffectual? The reason I say this is that I have recently fitted a set of heated Puma seats in to my TD5 and they get at times a little uncomfortably hot...!

I am happy to check the resistance of each element if you want to compare them.

24th Jan 2017 6:57am

NickEJ

Member Since: 24 Nov 2012
Location: Ljubljana
Posts: 152

2004 Defender 90 Td5 XS CSW Galway Green

You probably need to change the heating pads. I've got a 2004 Td5 XS and mine get nice and warm. So much so that I find I have to turn them off after a while.

24th Jan 2017 8:26am

c_eilersen

Member Since: 09 Oct 2016
Location: Copenhagen
Posts: 11

Thank you for the replies.

The car is in really good condition - it was put away for storage btw 2006 and 2013 and only have 40.000 miles on it now, so I was hoping that the heater pads wasn't that worn..

But it looks I will take a look at the pads anyway.

@Guy : It would be great if you could measure the resistance - (I am not an electrical engineer - where do I have to measure to compare? - across the pins on the seat plug?)

If I am to change the pads - what part are the best to use? original LR parts or aftermarket like Exmoore? My LR originals only have one setting on/off - can I reuse the wiring for the Exmoore ones that have low/medium/high setting.

Best,
Christian

24th Jan 2017 10:50am

AMBxx

Member Since: 24 Jul 2016
Location: York
Posts: 1030

2015 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Orkney Grey

I had a problem with the heated seats in my Td5. Not factory fitted though.
One of the wires broke due to the constant twisting of the wire when I changed gear. Meant that only half the base was heated.

24th Jan 2017 2:40pm

grafty99

Member Since: 15 Aug 2012
Location: North Devon
Posts: 4785

I have to say the xs heated seats in my 2002 90 aren't amazing. They get warm and probably too warm after about an hour but then cool down again so can be pretty much on constantly - where as the ones in my parents L322 need to be turned off full power after about 5 minutes or they are uncomfortably warm.

There is definitely room for improvement. Especially in a soft top! 2002 90 Td5 Station Wagon
1990 Vogue SE
Triumph Tiger Explorer 1200
Td5 90 Thread http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic50767.html
Tdi 110 Thread https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic69562.html
RRC Thread http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic54492.html
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24th Jan 2017 3:37pm

CDN38

Member Since: 14 Nov 2014
Location: Courtenay, BC
Posts: 729

I have a set of XS factory "warmed" seats from 2015. I refer to them a "warmed" because they just don't get hot. From day 1 (and they only had a few hundred miles on them when I installed them) they have never measured up to my expectations as seat heaters. It's better than nothing, but there a TON of room for improvement. it's a Landrover thing...

my renovation thread:
http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic40792.html

24th Jan 2017 6:40pm

K.M

Member Since: 28 Apr 2016
Location: Salisbury
Posts: 300

2016 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Montalcino Red

Quote:
I refer to them a "warmed" because they just don't get hot.

I completely agree! They take the chill off on a morning but other than that they're pretty useless!

24th Jan 2017 6:46pm

custom90

Member Since: 21 Jan 2010
Location: South West, England.
Posts: 20299

Swap over to Waeco pads and hardwire.(the low output feed only) ⭐️⭐️God Bless the USA 🇬🇧🇺🇸 ⭐️⭐️

24th Jan 2017 6:56pm

c_eilersen

Member Since: 09 Oct 2016
Location: Copenhagen
Posts: 11

Would I be able to use the existing wirering and swithes in the dashboard with these?

24th Jan 2017 9:33pm

leeds

Member Since: 28 Dec 2009
Location: West Yorkshire
Posts: 8580

Nakatanenga, today has announced new heater pads today. Unlike conventional heater pads these are carbon fibre ones, can be cut to size. If a single element fails it will continue to work unlike the more conventional ones.

I have not tried them or seen them yet.

Nicking an English translation

Quote:

Product Information
The high-quality carbon seat heating system for enhancement of individual seats designed.

You can heat the carbon surface heating elements on a round switch off (0% power) or set in one of 2 different heating modes:
High: 100% performance = full power for fast warm-up
Low 25% power = warmth in continuous operation

Differences of carbon surface heating elements for heating the wire technology:
The carbon surface heating elements have compared to the previously widespread heating elements in pigtail considerable advantages. Thus, only carbon heating elements can be adapted and cut during installation. In the conventional strand technology, a heating wire runs in a wavy manner within the heating element. If this is damaged in one place, eg by mechanical stress or overheating, the entire heating element falls out. Parallel technology is used in the novel carbon surface heating elements. There are many independent carbon fibers within the heating element ensuring their reliability. The heat distribution in the carbon surface heating elements is much more homogeneous and therefore more pleasant.

Brendan

24th Jan 2017 9:44pm

roel

Member Since: 08 Aug 2009
Location: Lelystad
Posts: 2039

This is the only solution in the winter. And yes it is an insulated one.

Click image to enlarge

Roel

1984 90 2.5 na Diesel - RR V8 (1994-2001)
1997 Camel Trophy Discovery 300TDI (2001-2009)
2005 G4 Discovery III 4.4 V8 (2008-2018) It's gone but it still hurts.
2003 90 Td5 (2009-now)

25th Jan 2017 7:21am

grafty99

Member Since: 15 Aug 2012
Location: North Devon
Posts: 4785

2002 90 Td5 Station Wagon
1990 Vogue SE
Triumph Tiger Explorer 1200
Td5 90 Thread http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic50767.html
Tdi 110 Thread https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic69562.html
RRC Thread http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic54492.html
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25th Jan 2017 8:54am

derbywill

Member Since: 25 Mar 2010
Location: Derbyshire
Posts: 556

I read somewhere that you can change the temp cut of in the seat for a higher cut off, i'm not sure if it was someone in the states tho,
sorry for a vague response i just can't find it.

Will 2005 90 XS
1954 86'' Series 1 tilt
1968 88” 2A 200tdi
2002 110 Hardtop

25th Jan 2017 12:47pm

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