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| Grockle Member Since: 24 Nov 2008 Location: Peak District National Park Posts: 2266   
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prob the windscreen seal 2.4 90 XS
1968 1/32 scale Britains 109 Pick up. |
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11th Jan 2011 5:58pm |
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| mse Member Since: 06 Apr 2008 Location: UK Posts: 5059 
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wasnt this the rear? Mike |
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11th Jan 2011 7:54pm |
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| Caterham Member Since: 06 Nov 2008 Location: Birmingham Posts: 6318  
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just in case its the same?
mine is in at the moment as the floor panel to the boot doesnt have any sealant where its riveted with dome heads - might be worth a look. Water makes its way in while driving in wet conditions - not a problem while stationary but unless you've bought a model to look at and not drive might be an issue. |
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11th Jan 2011 10:10pm |
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| BruceT Member Since: 01 Nov 2010 Location: South Africa Posts: 518 
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Yes its in the rear. |
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12th Jan 2011 7:28am |
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| Grockle Member Since: 24 Nov 2008 Location: Peak District National Park Posts: 2266
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I was reversing  2.4 90 XS
1968 1/32 scale Britains 109 Pick up. |
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12th Jan 2011 8:28am |
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| CapeLandy Member Since: 21 Jul 2008 Location: Cape Town Posts: 558
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Bruce
I found that although the seal was in place the bolts pulling the "canopy" down were not tight enough and you could move the seal around between the two. I tightened the bolts after removing all the rear panels and fitted silicone from inside which incidentally squeezed all the way to the outside demonstrating the size of the air gap. The panels all pull off easily but I also made a tool to get neatly ender the panel pins for the side panels. You just have to buy a few new pins if they break |
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12th Jan 2011 10:53am |
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| BruceT Member Since: 01 Nov 2010 Location: South Africa Posts: 518
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Thank you Capelandy.
I have a feeling this is the problem as after a few days of driving it around, i found two bolts (10mm I think) that I dont have a clue where they come from, in the back of the Defender and the rattles had stopped. I will pull the panels to check. Could you show me a picture of the tool. (even if you mail it to me at bjturner5@gmail.com) Thankyou |
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12th Jan 2011 12:17pm |
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| mse Member Since: 06 Apr 2008 Location: UK Posts: 5059
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10mm thats roof to side pannel i would wager! Loads all around from rear door to B pillar and then across the windscreen Mike |
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12th Jan 2011 4:45pm |
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| BruceT Member Since: 01 Nov 2010 Location: South Africa Posts: 518
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Thank you all for the replies. I now have a few things to look for. I will feedback to let you know what it was.
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13th Jan 2011 5:00am |
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| mse Member Since: 06 Apr 2008 Location: UK Posts: 5059
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Dont forget - take the trim off sit in the back and get someone to spray the car with a hose Mike
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13th Jan 2011 8:01am |
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| BruceT Member Since: 01 Nov 2010 Location: South Africa Posts: 518
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Will do. Thanks again MSE.
BTW I was looking at it again this morning with a torch. I noticed from the outside a small join in the rubber about 400mm from the rear. This join is not very good. When I opened up the join, I found that it has not been joined evenly all the way through. I also noticed that the gap in the front of the panel is slightly more than towards the back. (could mean the back is not tight - this could be where the nuts that I found come from) Got to love the Land Rover QC department! I will strip it this weekend and see. Thanks again for all the help. |
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13th Jan 2011 8:59am |
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| mse Member Since: 06 Apr 2008 Location: UK Posts: 5059
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I cant go and check to see if its still the same but...the rear window seals and the alpine seals are types that once the glass is in them (and the seal) and both are in the pannel a filler strip is inserted in the middle of the seal to locate it. There is a small gap in that sometimes...it might not be what your on above, infact the puma may have changed it - ive only changed the glass on a 300Tdi defender Mike
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13th Jan 2011 9:05am |
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| BruceT Member Since: 01 Nov 2010 Location: South Africa Posts: 518
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Hi All....just a report back.......I found the leak .... I THINK!
After taking all the advice here I removed all the panels in the rear. Was actually easier than I expected. I then found in about the center of the side windows there is a bracket holding the center of tha canopy down. These did not have nuts on both sides (left and right). So I fitted the ones I had found. I then tightened the canopy down a bit more on the 4 corner bolts/nuts..... it still leaked. Sealed everything with sealant and it still leaked...... Then I did what Mse suggested  and had someone stand outside and spray the vehicle with a hose........I found that the water is comming through the pop rivets just under the window (these can be seen from outside).....Now I just need to find something to seal them.
Another good thing about this exercise is that I have also sealed up all the joints that allowed dust to come in. Thank you for your help. |
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14th Feb 2011 2:57pm |
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| CyberCharlie Member Since: 01 Jul 2010 Location: Reading Posts: 140 
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Hi guys,
It's going to be trickier for me  i have no rear windows as mine is a 110 Utility. So basically the rear bay is all closed apart from the door window. Still i get the leak... i will try removing the panels but as i have no side windows there, i have no other idea where the water should be coming from.
Any ideas? |
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14th Feb 2011 5:32pm |
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