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| ROBBONTHEROCK Member Since: 23 Jun 2014 Location: Aberdeenshire Posts: 637   
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Personally I'd avoid something like waterless coolant.
It turns something that can be easily maintained into something that is a bit bespoke, for questionable improvement on a std engine. I know that Evans is used for some people who tune engines where hotter engine temperatures are the norm and therefore need a solution. I would just drain it, replace it with a decent concentration of the std fluid and replace it in 5 years time or so. They do have a service interval. Cheers Andy |
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27th Dec 2016 12:14pm |
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| Dreamweapon Member Since: 19 Dec 2016 Location: Hessische Odenwald Posts: 55 
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I'm also considering Evans coolant, on the basis it doesn't overheat, good to -40 and doesn't pressurize the system quite as much, so less expansion or pressure on seals, gaskets and hoses.
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27th Dec 2016 2:37pm |
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| GREENI Member Since: 22 Aug 2010 Location: staffs Posts: 10376 
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I looked at Evans, as I am using a tuned 4.6 v8 in my 90, I came to the conclusion that it's basically an over hyped, expensive liquid, that's flammable.
As long as you have a healthy radiator and hoses, normal anti freeze is more than capable. |
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27th Dec 2016 2:47pm |
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| tuesdayfox Member Since: 23 Jun 2013 Location: Sydney,OZ Posts: 129 
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lets be real here
if your defender is having an overheating problem, something is broken.. unless your defender is a performance machine or something..... |
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28th Dec 2016 9:51am |
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| grafty99 Member Since: 15 Aug 2012 Location: North Devon Posts: 4785 
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If waterless coolant was that good then why wouldn't manufacturers put it in from the factory? I agree that regularly replaced standard coolant and deionised water is perfectly adequate.
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28th Dec 2016 10:52am |
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| ob1conobe Member Since: 10 Jan 2014 Location: Gloucestershire Posts: 52 
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28th Dec 2016 5:49pm |
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| ob1conobe Member Since: 10 Jan 2014 Location: Gloucestershire Posts: 52
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28th Dec 2016 7:18pm |
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| jst Member Since: 14 Jan 2008 Location: Taunton Posts: 7899  
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we ran this 4 years ago or so on a heavily tunned td5 auto for Croatia. it worked well to help with cooling, but is a long old filling cycle to get all the water out plus its £££££££££££££ for not a lot was my conclusion.
Plus on day 5 or so when a branch took out a rear rad elbow and we lost the lot we had to drain and fill with water anyway...  Cheers
James 110 2012 XS Utility 130 2011 M57 bespoke Camper 90 2010 Hardtop 90 M57 1988 Hardtop |
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28th Dec 2016 9:27pm |
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| Sadi Member Since: 23 Jul 2015 Location: Windhoek Posts: 334  
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Long discussion here - in a roundabout way:
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/90-110-130-defe...hoses.html |
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29th Dec 2016 6:55am |
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| ericvv Member Since: 02 Jun 2011 Location: Near the Jet d'Eau Posts: 5816  
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^^ Interesting read and findings on aulro.com. So much for that idea.
Think I stick to my practice of having the standard water/antifreeze coolant mix replaced every few years. I don't like Land Rover's recommended coolant flush/replacement at 200.000KM only. Seems a bit long to me to remain assured that all anti-corrosion inhibitors and other additives in the antifreeze solution still have their full working capabilities after such high mileage. If I remember well, in the past 8 years and 80.000 KM my coolant was replaced already twice, last time with the installation of the PEL500110 thermostat. Gives peace of mind. Eric You never actually own a Defender. You merely look after it for the next generation. http://youtu.be/yVRlSsJwD0o https://youtu.be/vmPr3oTHndg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GtzTT9Pdl0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABqKPz28e6A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLZ49Jce_n0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvAsz_ilQYU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8tMHiX9lSw https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dxwjPuHIV7I https://vimeo.com/201482507 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSixqL0iyHw |
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29th Dec 2016 8:14am |
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| Baytown Member Since: 30 Jan 2016 Location: Cairns Australia Posts: 83  
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GDay fellas.
I'm the person who was asking about Evans in Oz. As per the thread, I've decided to stay with OEM coolant and regular changes. We often operate in above 40 deg c temps, and I often tow a 2 1/2 ton van, so will stay away from it. An EGT gauge and accessory water temp gauge is high on my list of mods though. Best wishes all. Ken Last edited by Baytown on 29th Dec 2016 9:26pm. Edited 1 time in total |
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29th Dec 2016 9:16am |
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| ob1conobe Member Since: 10 Jan 2014 Location: Gloucestershire Posts: 52
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Well it's looking like the general synopsis is to stick with the conventional arrangement.
So on that basis, can anyone shed some light on the various questions raised in my original post? Based on the rusty brown colour in my vehicle, I am keen to replace soon ... Cheers. |
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29th Dec 2016 4:43pm |
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| ericvv Member Since: 02 Jun 2011 Location: Near the Jet d'Eau Posts: 5816
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^^ Answering your question 1, my truck is a Puma 2.4, 8 1/2 years old, 80+K km, coolant has been replaced twice by dealer, each time when installing new thermostats, but none of the coolant mixes ever really changed colour, certainly not to a rusty brown or so.
Eric You never actually own a Defender. You merely look after it for the next generation. http://youtu.be/yVRlSsJwD0o https://youtu.be/vmPr3oTHndg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GtzTT9Pdl0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABqKPz28e6A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLZ49Jce_n0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvAsz_ilQYU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8tMHiX9lSw https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dxwjPuHIV7I https://vimeo.com/201482507 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSixqL0iyHw |
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29th Dec 2016 5:34pm |
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| ROBBONTHEROCK Member Since: 23 Jun 2014 Location: Aberdeenshire Posts: 637
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The rusty brown colour, wouldn't be some sort of reaction timing of different types of antifreeze would it? Given its rusty brown and a cause for concern, i would drain and re-fill with fresh anti-freeze and then monitor the colour for the next few months. It might take two flushes to get rid of all the rusty coloured water though. I would definitely check the fluid that is drained though and ensure its a not rusty looking due to some sort of oil contamination (although i would expect it to be milky if oil in the water). Cheers Andy |
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29th Dec 2016 7:23pm |
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