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hank



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Mach 5's
Been researching the lack of Mach 5 availability for a while. I know there are alloy replica's available but I am interested to hear if anybody has any experience with any of the following steel "mach 5's" ?

Are any of them still available? (I will ring the companies after the Christmas period)
Quality good?
Offsets decent/match originals?

http://www.silverlinewheels-tyres.com/4x4/wheels/steel/1/4

http://www.forgetec.co.uk/4x4.html

Thanks
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TooTall



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Hi
IIRC I think Brendan & Barbara (aka Leeds) can still get them direct from the factory. Ping them an email or just wait awhile as I'm sure he'll pop up & answer any questions you might have Thumbs Up
TT "Ease your worries, Clear-up your woes,
Go into your garage & put stuff into rows."
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K9F



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hank_marvinson wrote:
Been researching the lack of Mach 5 availability for a while.


That's because Matt Lee the original designer and producer stopped production of these wheels several years ago. He sold the design and manufacturing rights then bought them back and started production with the later flared centre design, the first and second generation had round centres, subsequently he ceased production.

TooTall wrote:
Hi IIRC I think Brendan & Barbara (aka Leeds) can still get them direct from the factory.


No chance whatsoever I'm afraid!!!! Unless of course he has once again commenced production yet again. You could always give him a ring direct. Link below.

https://www.yell.com/biz/m-j-lee-engineeri...r-1086357/

The original Mach 5s were in my opinion the best looking of the lot and with the best offset. I had 305 x 70 x 16 tyres fitted that did not protrude neither did the bumpstops need adjusting to fit. I had two sets 15 x 10s and subsequently 16 x 8s. Original Steel Mach 5s are 100% no longer available. There are cheap copies but they have an awful offset (for example the Bearmach Challenger wheel). If you want a set of Original Steel Mach 5s the only way to get a set is second hand. They are like Hen's Teeth and command good prices.

Production stopped of the steels approximately 5-6 years ago.....

K9F wrote:
leeds wrote:
Am not sure if Matt Lees are still trading ......Brendan


Hi Brendan, unfortunately he stopped quite some considerable time ago. Only the non-beadlockers were road legal. The ones advertised as Mach 5 and being sold now are alloy not steel. Am unsure what arrangements he made about the name usage on the alloys sold today?

K9F wrote:
Mach 5 where an excellent wheel and put out of business by cheap Chinese copies.......

Part of the Closing Statement from Matt Lee.....

Hi

Just like to thank all long term customers for supporting and dealing with us over the past 25 years, but due to overseas manufacturing and thoughtless companies copying, the original Mach 5 wheel production is over!

We have had great pleasure from many satisfied customers, including James Bonds tv crew from Skyfall.

Unfortunately in today's world, people have no feelings or respect and don't appreciate what goes into design and development, then production, which is another story!

What I think is, if the product was no good no one would copy it!.........


Avoid the beadlocker Mach 5s, they are not road legal and are a complete pig to balance. One forum member gave up on a set due to not being able to balance them. If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!

Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!!

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Post #587205 23rd Dec 2016 3:15pm
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TooTall



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My mistake, Brendan must sell the Zu's? As I'm sure he was displaying a set at the Peterbog show one year! On well Bow down
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Go into your garage & put stuff into rows."
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foxyred



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Try Charles at JCS wheels and tires he stocks the steel type
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CDN38



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Used sets of the Matt Lee Mach 5's do come up on eBay from time to time, well worth the wait.

Got mine last year for a good price, sold the rubber that came with them, shipped the rims over here and had them sand blasted, and re-powder coated. it's a Landrover thing...

my renovation thread:
http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic40792.html
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Mach 5's go for £500 all day long for a set, they crop up on 4x4 winch challenges page or just defender and series for sale or wanted or the various LR Facebook groups and once in a blue moon on here! 2008 Santorini Black 110 XS USW (Sold)

2015 Discovery 4.5 Black pack Firenze red XS

2008 Corris Grey 110 XS USW (sold)

2011 Santorini Black 110 XS USW (Sold)
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foxyred wrote:
Try Charles at JCS wheels and tires he stocks the steel type


Only the Challenger copies that are rubbish. If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!

Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!!
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CDN38



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Yup... Challenger copies have a terrible offset, welds are crap. The proverbial 'turd rolled in glitter". it's a Landrover thing...

my renovation thread:
http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic40792.html
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Theater



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In case anyone needs 5 genuine Mach 5 wheels used.....




http://www.subito.it/accessori-auto/cerchi...428508.htm Marco

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Ex Defender 90 "SW" S Santorini Black MY 2010
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Shocked Shocked Shocked
Are they made of gold.
I bought a set a while back with good tyres for 550.
Marc
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TJ101



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I have a couple of sets of original Mack5s, used for extrem offroad use,, only wheel i have never had a problem with,
won't be selling anytime soon Thumbs Up

Had one of the last set of beadlocks rims from Matt before he stopped doing them, that must be 5 years ago, if not more

As said, they do come up, expect to pay £100 per rim California F1, 75th 110 "Kermit", 50th Ann V8, 90 V8 Hybrid, 55 Series 1

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hank



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In my never ending quest for Mach 5's I have found these 'gojos 5 pipes' copies.

Does anybody have any experience with them? Offset looks to be worse than challengers, or have I misunderstood?

Cheers

https://www.tyresdirectuk.co.uk/product/16x8-et-32-gojos-5-pipe/
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legin



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Mack 5 the best wheels you can buy













Here is my old 200TDi with BFG 255/85/16 wish I still had them on my Puma
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sharkey964



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^^^^^^^^^^
Wot legin said...............
If you can find them.they are getting rare. Sad
Marc
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