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Pickles



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Australia 2013 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 CSW Keswick Green
Puma driveline slack, clunks, noises etc!
Our 90, Gracie' has always had a few clunks, noises, slack etc in the driveline, a couple of different noises, one a clunking noise in the driveliine, unis etc, when changing gear,...very difficult to change gear without finding a bit of "slack".
The other is when you've reversed, you stop, & then you engage 1st to move off, and as you do so, there's a sort of a "click" from the rear/diff area, as if some sort of gear slack is being taken up.
This is the first Defender we've owned & I thought they all suffered from this sort of stuff, which could be considered "normal" for a Defender, but yesterday I drove a friend's 110, which didn't appear to have any driveline noises, so I'm wondering if Gracie is as she should be, or not?!
Warranty expires in a few days, so I'd like to get this sorted!t Any thoughts please?
Thanks, Pickles.
Post #580726 27th Nov 2016 6:59am
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GREENI



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Although the rear hub flanges wear quite a bit on the Puma, it could also be worn rear radius arm bushes that give you a clunk as you go from reverse to forward.

If they've never been done, I'd say this would be prime suspect. Both ends, axle and chassis Thumbs Up
Post #580729 27th Nov 2016 8:25am
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agentmulder



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I've got the same, makes the clunk when changing direction between forward and reverse. More loud when reversing though.

Sort of a 'goink!' when just starting the reversing, but more of a 'cronk' when going forward again Laughing

I just got a full set of bushes that I'm slowly replacing. I'll update this thread when/if I find the culprit. I'm hoping it's not the A-frame joint.

Swapping out CV's, halfshafts and flanges recently made a heap of difference in terms of noise, but now the new set up just makes me aware of how much slack there is upsteam which is more felt than heard. Solved the bowel problem, working on the consonants...
Post #580732 27th Nov 2016 9:02am
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Pickles



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"goink" is exactly it.
Pickles.
Post #580753 27th Nov 2016 11:29am
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Froglaise



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agentmulder wrote:
I've got the same, makes the clunk when changing direction between forward and reverse. More loud when reversing though.

Sort of a 'goink!' when just starting the reversing, but more of a 'cronk' when going forward again Laughing

I just got a full set of bushes that I'm slowly replacing. I'll update this thread when/if I find the culprit. I'm hoping it's not the A-frame joint.

Swapping out CV's, halfshafts and flanges recently made a heap of difference in terms of noise, but now the new set up just makes me aware of how much slack there is upsteam which is more felt than heard.


Is the A-frame joint a bigger issue?
Post #580804 27th Nov 2016 5:59pm
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tobz102



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United Kingdom 2008 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 HT Stornoway Grey
A-frame ball joint
Post #580805 27th Nov 2016 6:05pm
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Roy5695



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A frame ball joint.

Easy to change if you buy the joint in the fulcrum. More expensive but can be done in about half an hour then.

Jack chassis up, un bolt sway bar and shocks. Unbolt fulcrum. Fit is reverse. 2011 Defender DCPU 2.2 - https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic30623.html

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agentmulder



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I hope not A-frame is it's the part I didn't get Wink Solved the bowel problem, working on the consonants...
Post #580829 27th Nov 2016 7:33pm
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mick



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Transfer box changed mine different truck
Post #580867 27th Nov 2016 8:39pm
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ericvv



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Pickles, don't know the exact difference between a goink and a cronk, but before your warranty runs out, ask your dealer to check if your halfshafts possibly have excessive play. I had for years some kind of a transmission clunk, or goink, or cronk, Laughing , and then dealer checked this and found excessive slack in the half shafts. They were replaced free of charge at almost 6 years old under the extended LR warranty, and ever since the SVX has had no more transmission noise at all.
I guess the way to check is on a chassis supporting lift when rear wheels can be turned freely to check eventual slack in the half shafts. Dealer should be able to do that easily with you present, so you can witness for yourself if there potentially would be quite a bit of slack or not. My experience is in below thread. Bonne chance. Thumbs Up
Eric
http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic27466-15.html You never actually own a Defender. You merely look after it for the next generation.
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agentmulder



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Can't be sure my goink is the same as pickle's but after changing out the halfshafts, flanges, CVs and more the noise continues on mine. Solved the bowel problem, working on the consonants...
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Froglaise



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Mines a "thud"changing some gears. Fairly convinced I need to order the Ashcroft shaft.
Think I might prefer a goink.
Post #581279 29th Nov 2016 11:56am
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