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Tumbiri

Member Since: 01 Nov 2016
Location: Caribbean
Posts: 52

2013 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Orkney Grey

2013 110 Clutch

Gears are becoming difficult to select with only 34K km on the clock. This happens intermittently. On one occasion the car continued to creep forward in 1st with the clutch pedal fully depressed. Popped it out of gear and all worked fine after that. Clutch hydraulic system has already been bled. Would appreciate some ideas on what the cause could be.

5th Nov 2016 5:26pm

DAZ110

Member Since: 06 Dec 2007
Location: East Sussex
Posts: 2037

2013 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Barolo Black

I has similar problems on my previous 110, turned out that the clutch plate springs were falling out on mine and jamming it up. I also had a random screeching sound sometimes when the clutch was dipped. Approx 45,000 miles on my clutch at the time.

5th Nov 2016 5:31pm

Tumbiri

Member Since: 01 Nov 2016
Location: Caribbean
Posts: 52

2013 110XS SW Gears difficult to select

Gears are becoming difficult to select with only 34K km on the clock.
This happens intermittently. Occasionally there is a rattle ...somewhere below the gear shift. On one occasion the car continued to creep forward in 1st with the clutch pedal fully depressed. Popped it out of gear and all worked fine after that. Pressing and releasing the pedal seems to help. Clutch hydraulic system has been bled. Pedal vertical height to floor is 140 mm; Pedal travel from full up to full down (touching floor) is 170 mm (should be 135 mm), however, when functioning 'normally' the clutch engage/disengage operates about mid pedal travel (it releases before the pedal touches the floor).
Would appreciate some ideas on what the cause could be.

8th Nov 2016 1:54am

agentmulder

Member Since: 16 Apr 2016
Location: Outer Space
Posts: 1324

Similar symptoms with a faulty slave cylinder ... Solved the bowel problem, working on the consonants...

8th Nov 2016 5:44am

Tumbiri

Member Since: 01 Nov 2016
Location: Caribbean
Posts: 52

Thanks AM...
Not sure I should continue driving with this. Any idea of the failure modes of the slave cylinder (eg internal hydraulic leakage)?

8th Nov 2016 12:43pm

DAZ110

Member Since: 06 Dec 2007
Location: East Sussex
Posts: 2037

Have you read your other post?:

http://www.defender2.net/forum/post575645.html#575645

8th Nov 2016 1:46pm

Tumbiri

Member Since: 01 Nov 2016
Location: Caribbean
Posts: 52

Yes I did, thanks DAZ110. Apologies for not replying to you earlier.
I switched the subject from Technical to Maintenance & Modifications.
I want to make sure I order all possible parts (hard to come by where I am!) so that I can nail it in one go when they drop the gearbox. I can always return unused parts. So far on the list of possible causes I have: Slave Cylinder, Clutch Plate, and Pressure Plate. Anything else? As I have only 34K Km on the clock not sure if I should change anything else...eg thrust bearing, fork? Thoughts?

8th Nov 2016 2:22pm

DAZ110

Member Since: 06 Dec 2007
Location: East Sussex
Posts: 2037

If your opening it up you might as well change all parts.

8th Nov 2016 3:10pm

Martin
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Member Since: 02 Apr 2007
Location: Hook Norton
Posts: 6604

2015 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Montalcino Red

(duplicate threads merged)

1988 90 Td5 NAS soft top

2015 D90 XS SW

8th Nov 2016 4:27pm

Tumbiri

Member Since: 01 Nov 2016
Location: Caribbean
Posts: 52

Cheers!

8th Nov 2016 7:51pm

agentmulder

Member Since: 16 Apr 2016
Location: Outer Space
Posts: 1324

Re: 2013 110XS SW Gears difficult to select

Tumbiri wrote:
Pressing and releasing the pedal seems to help..

This in particular rings bells... Solved the bowel problem, working on the consonants...

8th Nov 2016 7:51pm

Tumbiri

Member Since: 01 Nov 2016
Location: Caribbean
Posts: 52

I guess you mean warning bells about a pending failure of the salve cylinder?

8th Nov 2016 8:41pm

Tumbiri

Member Since: 01 Nov 2016
Location: Caribbean
Posts: 52

Has anyone experienced any problems with the 'Slave Cylinder Outlet Assembly & Peak Torque Limiter'? From what I've read this unit restricts fluid flow during the clutch pedal up stroke. I'm guessing here that a partial blockage could affect clutch operation either way.

19th Nov 2016 12:28am

Tumbiri

Member Since: 01 Nov 2016
Location: Caribbean
Posts: 52

New development; in neutral and engine at idle, with foot off the clutch (clutch engaged) no noise; with clutch pedal depressed you can hear a distinct taca-taca-taca...rattle noise. Looks like the slave cylinder/thrust bearing is not pulling away from the cover plate leaf springs.
Before I go the whole nine yards and drop the gearbox need some advice;
Could the cause(s) be:
1. Air in the system
2. Master Cylinder
3. Slave Cylinder & Release Bearing
4. Slave cylinder adapter.
5. Slave cylinder valve
6. All of the above?!

20th Nov 2016 6:48pm

ickle

Member Since: 22 Jul 2010
Location: South Vendee
Posts: 1777

2008 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 CSW Alpine White

Complete new clutch assembly latest type to include bearing in end of flywheel
New slave cylinder/realease bearing unit - latest type PLUS Matching valve

And whilst its out gearbox / transfer box adapter shaft - be rude not to....

20th Nov 2016 8:46pm

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