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| Riverboy Member Since: 16 May 2016 Location: French sector, Earth Posts: 1288  
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I'm not sure they do allow it, however this being France, if you ignore the rules and do it anyway, chances are you'll get away with it. I learned quite quickly after moving here that you never offer information. If they dont know, they wont bother you about it and usually they dont want to know anyway as that means they have to do some work, which annoys them terribly and then they give you a load of bureaucratic merde.
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24th Oct 2016 11:02am |
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| Grenadier Member Since: 23 Jul 2014 Location: The foot of Mont Blanc... Posts: 5829  
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Merci. Yup, it's been a cause of much discussion on the forum recently. I'm of the view that if I import the car with the new engine in, all correctly registered in the UK, then that becomes the French authorities start point. I did think it might be difficult but then thought that there are loads of imported classics that have had engine upgrades, so as long as it is correctly registered at point of import only from then on can mods not be made. As far as the CofC is concerned, if they can see the engine has been correctly regsitered to the chassis in the UK, then surely it still 'conforms'? After all, when I register it here I will have to pay import/tax/fiscal charges based on the new engine size, as it will be notified to the prefecture and on all documentation. I am sure mods are illegal because as there are no annual road taxes to pay (as per the UK) so in theory anyone could buy a 1l peugeot, pay for it's initial registration and then slap in a V12 which would be avoiding the fiscal tax. By doing it before import it wouldn't. If they don't allow it, I'll have to bite the bullet and keep it UK registered and drive it back to the UK each year. Driving a V8 Defender on empty French autoiroutes back to the UK for an Ale resupply would be a real hassle
 Monsieur Le Grenadier
I've not been everywhere, but it's on my list..... 2011 Puma 110DC - Corris Grey |
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24th Oct 2016 11:08am |
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| ericvv Member Since: 02 Jun 2011 Location: Near the Jet d'Eau Posts: 5816  
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Bonne chance.
Eric You never actually own a Defender. You merely look after it for the next generation. http://youtu.be/yVRlSsJwD0o https://youtu.be/vmPr3oTHndg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GtzTT9Pdl0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABqKPz28e6A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLZ49Jce_n0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvAsz_ilQYU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8tMHiX9lSw https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dxwjPuHIV7I https://vimeo.com/201482507 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSixqL0iyHw |
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24th Oct 2016 11:12am |
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| Riverboy Member Since: 16 May 2016 Location: French sector, Earth Posts: 1288
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I'll give you my shopping list
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24th Oct 2016 11:12am |
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| Riverboy Member Since: 16 May 2016 Location: French sector, Earth Posts: 1288
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This is why the only mods I've made are cosmetic. Apart from the wheels that is. Even then, the insurance wont take any of those mods into consideration unless they are genuine JLR accessories fitted by JLR.
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24th Oct 2016 11:16am |
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| Grenadier Member Since: 23 Jul 2014 Location: The foot of Mont Blanc... Posts: 5829
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Thanks Eric. PMA. Positive Mental Attitude. Until I'm told otherwise, I'll believe it can be done. If it can't, a gallic shrug, a strong coffee and I move on... Monsieur Le Grenadier
I've not been everywhere, but it's on my list..... 2011 Puma 110DC - Corris Grey |
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24th Oct 2016 11:18am |
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| Grenadier Member Since: 23 Jul 2014 Location: The foot of Mont Blanc... Posts: 5829
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As long as it fits in my cubby box, because by the time I'm done with ale, Penguins (don't ask Eric  ), Wagon Wheels (don't ask Eric ), pasties, sausages, Custard Creams, HP, Lea and Perrins, Baked Beans, Lamb joints, Frazzles and Scampi Fries, Sausage Rolls, etc etc, there'll not be too much space. Unless you lend me your roof rack!!  Monsieur Le Grenadier
I've not been everywhere, but it's on my list..... 2011 Puma 110DC - Corris Grey |
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24th Oct 2016 11:21am |
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| ericvv Member Since: 02 Jun 2011 Location: Near the Jet d'Eau Posts: 5816
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Do not underestimate me.
I do not really fancy those things, but if you have some space left in your cubby, feel free to bring me one of the below.
Click image to enlarge Eric You never actually own a Defender. You merely look after it for the next generation. http://youtu.be/yVRlSsJwD0o https://youtu.be/vmPr3oTHndg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GtzTT9Pdl0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABqKPz28e6A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLZ49Jce_n0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvAsz_ilQYU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8tMHiX9lSw https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dxwjPuHIV7I https://vimeo.com/201482507 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSixqL0iyHw |
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24th Oct 2016 11:46am |
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| Riverboy Member Since: 16 May 2016 Location: French sector, Earth Posts: 1288
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24th Oct 2016 11:52am |
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| Augustus Member Since: 23 Mar 2016 Location: Carcassonne Posts: 86 
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Hi Peter
Just doing the same ourselves, but with the one house. Defender import tax (malice tax) is horrific. Having issues getting a coc out of renault!! But if no coc it's not all over i believe, it's over to the french who do all the tests etc themselves and declare it conformed. So not all lost. Gus |
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28th Oct 2016 7:37pm |
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| Froglaise Member Since: 24 Sep 2016 Location: left forum Posts: 212 |
Are you talking about in terms of them invalidating the insurance or refusing to cover the value of the mods? |
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29th Oct 2016 4:36pm |
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| Froglaise Member Since: 24 Sep 2016 Location: left forum Posts: 212 |
Honestly I can tell you from experience that if you don't have a CoC or a cert for an collectors car from FFVE, then you may as well just forget it. It's just not worth it. There is the RTI route but you will need a lot of money, a lot of time (think 2 years) and you will likely fail it. I hear that it's a 85% fail rate. You'll have to trailer the vehicle around France to get the tests etc done...it's not like the UK Mot where you can drive to a booked one. In the end IF you get a registration you will find you spent more than the difference in getting a French spec and registered one in the first place. |
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29th Oct 2016 4:43pm |
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| Augustus Member Since: 23 Mar 2016 Location: Carcassonne Posts: 86
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Fair enough. Sounds Grim. Thanks for the heads up.
Having a hard time getting Renault to issue one at the mo. Renault UK just washed their hands of helping and couldn't give a toss. Nice CS. 
That and you'd imagine there'd be a glut of Clio3 headlamps knocking about…but no. The hardest thing to find in France is a pair of lamps for my motor. We will see. Fingers crossed. |
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29th Oct 2016 6:06pm |
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| Riverboy Member Since: 16 May 2016 Location: French sector, Earth Posts: 1288
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They (macif) wont cover the cost of the mods.  I need to look for an insurer that will. |
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29th Oct 2016 6:06pm |
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