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| roel Member Since: 08 Aug 2009 Location: Lelystad Posts: 2039   
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I have a modified North Off-Road Cage.
 Click image to enlarge I am not sure what part off the body you want to protect? As most parts that get the most on and off-road damage are not protected. Only cleaning get more difficult. Roel 1984 90 2.5 na Diesel - RR V8 (1994-2001) 1997 Camel Trophy Discovery 300TDI (2001-2009) 2005 G4 Discovery III 4.4 V8 (2008-2018) It's gone but it still hurts. 2003 90 Td5 (2009-now) |
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21st Sep 2016 9:07pm |
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| dioliahary Member Since: 18 Jan 2015 Location: Manchester Posts: 668 
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I don't off road and was thinking roof protection in the result of a prang, maybe getting paranoid
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21st Sep 2016 9:12pm |
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| ericvv Member Since: 02 Jun 2011 Location: Near the Jet d'Eau Posts: 5816  
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Roel, is that a DAB radio antenna there on your roof?  Maybe you should straigthen it a bit more.  You never actually own a Defender. You merely look after it for the next generation.
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21st Sep 2016 9:51pm |
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| siglo Member Since: 07 Aug 2015 Location: Kuwait Posts: 50  
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I have the safety devices external roll cage on mine. It was the first option on my list after seeing photos of defenders rolling over without cages. The quality of their cages is top notch and they have roof racks, ladders, mounts, etc. if you want to add them later on.
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30th Sep 2016 6:58pm |
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| YOLO110 Member Since: 14 Feb 2015 Location: Perth Oz and Stansted UK Posts: 1642 
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Sorry but I think these external cages look just butt ugly!
Why an iconic shape like a Defender, then surround it with scaffolding  ... I just don't get it at all. I am not even convinced about the effectiveness of it in a big smash either.
Yes the Defender roof is like cheese... but so were many other car roof's years ago when it was designed. Just accept it as it is, or buy a 'modern' vehicle, designed by computers, made with high strength steel and has undergone all the current crash protection testing that ensures a stable roof in the event of a roll-over etc. Or if you must, fit an internal SD system that would tick the desire for some additional protection... All IMHO!  YOLO... You Only Live Once... |
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30th Sep 2016 11:27pm |
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| siglo Member Since: 07 Aug 2015 Location: Kuwait Posts: 50
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@YOLO110
No need to apologise, it is a matter of taste. Many people see the "iconic shape" of the defender as the ugliest thing on wheels. Personally, I'd rather have an ugly roll cage in a roll over after seeing the below images. I would have put an internal one in the defender if I could. The problem is the space in a defender is so tight, I could only fit myself in it after changing the steering wheel to a smaller one and installing seat rails to gain some room. After that, there was no room left to fit a roll cage. I think that is why you see mostly external roll cages on defenders as opposed to other 4x4s.
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1st Oct 2016 4:06am |
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| roel Member Since: 08 Aug 2009 Location: Lelystad Posts: 2039
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I was happy to have my cage last weekend:
Click image to enlarge Click image to enlarge Click image to enlarge I think it saved me from some damage.  Roel
1984 90 2.5 na Diesel - RR V8 (1994-2001) 1997 Camel Trophy Discovery 300TDI (2001-2009) 2005 G4 Discovery III 4.4 V8 (2008-2018) It's gone but it still hurts. 2003 90 Td5 (2009-now) |
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1st Oct 2016 7:32pm |
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| YOLO110 Member Since: 14 Feb 2015 Location: Perth Oz and Stansted UK Posts: 1642
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I that the San Andreas Fault line
 YOLO... You Only Live Once... |
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1st Oct 2016 9:39pm |
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| Mo Murphy Member Since: 01 Jun 2008 Location: Letchworth Garden City, Herts Posts: 2227  
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Yup, good advice there YOLO, fit an internal cage and turn the cage into a head injury hazard in the event of an accident !
It's not the roof that's weak in the defender, that's relatively strong with form and stiffening. The weak part is the cast aluminium windscreen frame. This has very little strength and nearly always collapses in the event of a rollover allowing the roof to compress down onto the vehicle's front passengers. See the middle photo above and compare it to the bottom one ! Anyone who thinks you should just live with this weakness is a fool. IMHO 😊 I had a Bowler cage on my last 90 and have an SD external cage on my current 90. Any future acquisitions will be likewise equipped. HTH Mo The Land Rover 90 - Many are called, few are chosen. 50 Shades of Pennine Grey |
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1st Oct 2016 10:21pm |
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| YOLO110 Member Since: 14 Feb 2015 Location: Perth Oz and Stansted UK Posts: 1642
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No need for Sarcasm mate!
If an interior cage was deemed to be a hazard, it would certainly not achieve FIA approval Quote from Bowler about their interior cage... The interior has also been overhauled for competition use. Bowler is keen for the Defender Challenge cars to compete outside of the designated events so it has been built to comply with all MSA and FIA off-road racing regs. To that end, there’s an MSA-approved cage and fire extinguisher, plus racing seats with six-point harnesses. That is what I would buy if looking to install ROPS in my Defender... I think we all make our own choices regarding vehicle safety... I don't drive a Volvo and don't wear a helmet with a HANS device either... But if we all did these things as well, there would be even less injuries as a result of RTA's YOLO... You Only Live Once... |
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2nd Oct 2016 1:20am |
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| agentmulder Member Since: 16 Apr 2016 Location: Outer Space Posts: 1324
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Weird ol' thing is taste. Here's me liking the look of SD external cages and considering one almost for the aesthetics - and at the same time preferring more standard looking winch bumpers and IMHO it looks like there is some scaffolding on the front of your vehicle
You've likely got the bumper like that for good reason though so ... heh, not sure what I'm saying  Solved the bowel problem, working on the consonants... |
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2nd Oct 2016 3:37am |
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| Mo Murphy Member Since: 01 Jun 2008 Location: Letchworth Garden City, Herts Posts: 2227
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Forgive me if I point out the obvious YOLO but that's a motorsport vehicle, the sort where they have to wear a crash helmet all the time. Not particularly convenient for a road going vehicle methinks.
Mo The Land Rover 90 - Many are called, few are chosen. 50 Shades of Pennine Grey |
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2nd Oct 2016 7:44am |
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| GREENI Member Since: 22 Aug 2010 Location: staffs Posts: 10381
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Exactly that ^^^
I was at the Mull Rally last year, unfortunately a guy lost his life as his helmet was not fastened and it came off in a roll, it was the head impact with the cage that resulted in the loss of his life.  |
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2nd Oct 2016 7:54am |
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