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defendertom



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Wales 2011 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 SVX Soft Top Santorini Black
defender tdci svx rebuild
im build an svx tdci from the remails of a stolen recovered svx. i have most of the origonal parts acept the interior. building it on a brand new galvanised chassis with no numbers. i have chance to buy an id but is 1999. does anyone have any sujestion on how i get it registered. i dont want a Q plate Bow down Bow down Bow down Bow down Bow down svx tdci (project)
200tdi 90
90 tdci truck cab
90 TD5 green lane
200tdi 100inch trayback
Post #56365 2nd Feb 2011 11:08pm
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defender75



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no clue how to register it but please post pics of the build
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blackwolf



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I think it depends how much of the stolen/recovered donor vehicle is used in your "new build".

If it is enough (engine, gearbox, axles) then you can probably reuse the identity of the donor vehicle since it is OK to fit a new replacement chassis without losing this identity, provided that the chassis is substantially the same as the original (for example the same wheelbase). The build up will be subject to the infamous DVLA "points system" about which there is plenty of info online if you Google for it.

If you do not qualify (with enough points) for it to be considered the same vehicle, then as far as I know it will be treated as though it is a new build kit car and registered accordingly. It may also need an SVA (Single Vehicle Approval) test prior to registration since it may not be considered to fall within the type approvals gained by LR. Once again there is plenty of info about kit cars out there (Google for it).

Good luck with the build! At least you should end up with a properly assembled Defender, unlike those which come from the factory!
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Defender SVX



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Sounds a good project Wink any pics? What no. SVX? Just out of intrest the doner vehicle isn't the one in this link?


http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic2163.h...amaged+svx

If you've used a aftermarket chassis you may have a battle to keep it off a Q but good luck Thumbs Up Formerly mao99999
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WarPig



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I had my 300tdi built on a galv chassis and galv bulkhead. No need for Q plate. I believe it works on a point system whereby if too many major components are changed ie chassis, transmission, body, then it may fall foul of the Q plate system.

The original chassis MUST be destroyed, cut away the part with the chassis number on and keep it safe. Dont want two chassis on the road with the same number. Consider stamping the old chassis number onto a plate and then bond this onto the new chassis, rather than stamping through that nice new galv.

If Old Bill pull you, at least you will be able to produce the old chassis section once your let out on bail Very Happy
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WarPig wrote:
I had my 300tdi built on a galv chassis and galv bulkhead. No need for Q plate. I believe it works on a point system whereby if too many major components are changed ie chassis, transmission, body, then it may fall foul of the Q plate system.

The original chassis MUST be destroyed, cut away the part with the chassis number on and keep it safe. Dont want two chassis on the road with the same number. Consider stamping the old chassis number onto a plate and then bond this onto the new chassis, rather than stamping through that nice new galv.

If Old Bill pull you, at least you will be able to produce the old chassis section once your let out on bail Very Happy


I would imagine this would be ok if replacement due to corrosion or none recorded damage but from what I've read (I'm no expert) to remove the cat c with the sva test the parts(in the case of chassis or frame) should be replaced with new genuine parts? However I believe that the inspection is done on a case by case basis and so long as the rest hasn't been radically altered on a puma spec galv chassis should do? it all depends on the examiner on the day. Formerly mao99999
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95 DEFENDER 110 CSW 300 TDi Phoenix black
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55 86" SERIES 1
Post #56426 3rd Feb 2011 11:15am
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blackwolf



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mao99999 wrote:
... from what I've read (I'm no expert) to remove the cat c with the sva test the parts(in the case of chassis or frame) should be replaced with new genuine parts? ...


I may be wrong but I thought the parts didn't need to be Genuine Parts (ie supplied by the original manufacturer) but equivalent parts, ie essentially the same in form, function, materials and spec to the original. You would otherwise have a problem if you needed a part which is no longer available from the original manufacturer.
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Pretty sure there is no such thing as a Q plate anymore Thumbs Up
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defendertom



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[quote="Sonic3d"]Pretty sure there is no such thing as a Q plate anymore Thumbs Up[/quote]

i thought so. just no one can give me a definate answer. i got a q reg 200 tdi and 2 many people ask me what is wrong with it. it gets very annoying. svx tdci (project)
200tdi 90
90 tdci truck cab
90 TD5 green lane
200tdi 100inch trayback
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defendertom



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well. i bought all the parts from my local breaker. started to build a 90 tdci sw on a brand new genuine galvaniused landrover chassis.
went to his yard one day and seen the svx tub seatbox dash and bulkhead. i had to have it. the veichle was breaker only so it can never go back on road with its origonal id. the front had to much damage to even try to salvage. so ive fitted everything origonal from bulkead back body wise. engine and box with axles came from an 09 only done 6000 miles. need wings front hoop for roll cage and grille and im done. APART FROM NO NUMBERPLATE. I WILL RING DVLA TOMORROW. svx tdci (project)
200tdi 90
90 tdci truck cab
90 TD5 green lane
200tdi 100inch trayback
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defendertom wrote:
well. i bought all the parts from my local breaker. started to build a 90 tdci sw on a brand new genuine galvaniused landrover chassis.
went to his yard one day and seen the svx tub seatbox dash and bulkhead. i had to have it. the veichle was breaker only so it can never go back on road with its origonal id. the front had to much damage to even try to salvage. so ive fitted everything origonal from bulkead back body wise. engine and box with axles came from an 09 only done 6000 miles. need wings front hoop for roll cage and grille and im done. APART FROM NO NUMBERPLATE. I WILL RING DVLA TOMORROW.


Sounds like a definate Q or equivalent (if there is still one) to me as you've no main doner or original chassis for the number (the vehicle you sourced the parts from doesn't count as it's parts only) you can't even claim new vehicle build as you haven't used new parts.

I'd ring the DVLA to confirm but fear the worst and start looking for a puma cat c and rebuild that using your good parts and sell on your new chassis. Formerly mao99999
16 Focus RS Nitrous Blue.
11 FFRR TDV8 Vouge SE Black Black.
08 DEFENDER SVX SOFT TOP (SUPERB)
08 DEFENDER 110 DCPU Stornoway grey (Overland Exploration Unit)
05 Fiesta ST 150 Van
04 Jaguar XKR 4.2 Supercharged V8
02 DEFENDER 90 TD5 (next years soft top project)
95 DEFENDER 110 CSW 300 TDi Phoenix black
95 DEFENDER 90 HT Monti Carlo blue COUNTY 300 TDi
67 109" SERIES 2a TUNED 200 TDI
64 DAVID BROWN 990 rat look
55 86" SERIES 1
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defender75



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Need to see pics of this beast coming together
Post #56509 3rd Feb 2011 6:10pm
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defendertom



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[quote="defender75"]Need to see pics of this beast coming together[/quote]

will have photos of build and hopefully finished by the end of next week. hang in there. i have a few more late nights to go. svx tdci (project)
200tdi 90
90 tdci truck cab
90 TD5 green lane
200tdi 100inch trayback
Post #56634 4th Feb 2011 12:21am
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