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Skelkelly

Member Since: 08 May 2016
Location: dubai
Posts: 51

2003 TD5 Double Cab - Running / Starting problems

Hi All

Here is a overview of the issue I'm having...

The truck has been a bit sluggish a couple of times when driving for the first mile or so, almost like a rev limiter was on.

Last might I reversed onto the driveway (doing my usual 5 point turn as I live in a village with narrow road and short, steep driveway) and it stalled just as I got it on the drive.

I then tried to re-start it to move it back a little but it wouldn't start. Turned over but didn't even attempt to fire up.

Tried again around an hour later and it went after a little hesitation.

This morning it started first time but was running like a bag of spanners, was not running on all cylinders and took about 10 minutes of slow driving round the village before it started running okay.

Then dropped my daughter off at school and it wouldn't re-start. Again, left it for 15 minutes and it started with some hesitation.

When it does run there is a dead spot at low revs before it runs properly. I'm getting that feeling of turbo lag then it lurches forward.

There is no obvious signs of trouble in the engine bay or underneath, can't see any leaks. Just a stronger smell of exhaust gasses than normal.

Any thoughts??

Thanks
Shaun

20th Jul 2016 4:15pm

mk1collector

Member Since: 17 Sep 2009
Location: West Yorkshire
Posts: 6769

Unplug the maf and see if it makes a difference. Ray
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20th Jul 2016 4:59pm

Skeggy 90

Member Since: 07 Oct 2013
Location: Skeg Vegas
Posts: 233

Try bleeding the fuel system, ignition on and depress throttle 5 times fully, elm light will flash and fuel pump will run for about 5 mins. It may be getting air in the fuel system or possibly the in tank pump.
If it's air it could be the injector seals. 90 300 TDI SW (sold)
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20th Jul 2016 5:04pm

Skelkelly

Member Since: 08 May 2016
Location: dubai
Posts: 51

Thanks fellas

Where is the MAF located? Don't have manual yet! That would be ironic as that's currently the problem I have with my 900.

Just tried starting it from cold, fired first time.

20th Jul 2016 7:08pm

dorsetsmith

Member Since: 30 Oct 2011
Location: South West
Posts: 4554

next one out from air filter box

20th Jul 2016 7:16pm

Skelkelly

Member Since: 08 May 2016
Location: dubai
Posts: 51

20th Jul 2016 7:50pm

pj2106

Member Since: 20 Dec 2012
Location: Huntingdon AKA The Shire
Posts: 1500

2008 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Stornoway Grey

As has been said maf first but definitely worth doing injector seals and washers as when these go it lets fuel run back and if your getting a white puff of smoke on start up usual a good sign of the problem 2008 110 2.4 XS Utility (Hagrid)
2002 90 TD5 Hardtop (Sully) Sold
1998 300TDi D1 (Billy) Sold

20th Jul 2016 9:02pm

Bps

Member Since: 14 Feb 2016
Location: Lancashire
Posts: 833

When reversing particularly with a trailer or up a slope I used to stick my old td5 in low box, I found it a lot better.

One thought with you being on a slope is fuel level, my disco td5 which is parked on a slight slope would not start if the fuel light had been on for only 10 or so miles when parked. The pump was a bit lazy so I went for a new genuine one, found the old pump was a non gen and heard of a couple of times that non gen pumps all seemed to do the same when running low on fuel

20th Jul 2016 9:35pm

Skelkelly

Member Since: 08 May 2016
Location: dubai
Posts: 51

Disconnected the MAF and bled the fuel pump, made no difference

Very rough on idle, lots of white smoke.

Head gasket?

21st Jul 2016 7:05am

taazzukcb

Member Since: 30 Aug 2013
Location: Derbyshire
Posts: 663

2004 Defender 110 Td5 DCPU Stornoway Grey

I wouldn't jump to HG just yet. Check Injector seals and also stick your hand behind the FPR. Check for any leaking etc. Or clamber underneath and check with a torch down behind and below where it sits.

Generic thought process for white smoke IMO of course:

Low Fuel Pressure (anything from Pump, to Seals)
Faulty Glows (though the TD5 doesn't have such a requirement on glow plugs as some diesels IMO ...)
Possibly Turbo Issues
Low Compression (this is a last option if all else doesn't fix it)

Few other bits and bobs, but not usually TD5 issues.

Out of interest, have you checked for oil in loom in case your injectors are getting dodgey signals?

Are you a 10P or 15P engine (Assuming 15P on a 2003, though still plenty of reasons it could be a 10P in 2003)?

I'm going to go with fuel somewhere along the line.

Last edited by taazzukcb on 21st Jul 2016 7:45am. Edited 3 times in total

21st Jul 2016 7:20am

dorsetsmith

Member Since: 30 Oct 2011
Location: South West
Posts: 4554

fuel presser regulator leak , driver side back engine, ruff idling can all so be oil in red ecu plug, stronger smell of exhaust gasses, did it small of diesel ?

you six mouth warranty

2003 engine 15P ease way to check do you have pipe running from the fuel presser regulator to the front of the cylinder head this fuel retune from injectors on 15p engine fuel system

21st Jul 2016 7:32am

Skelkelly

Member Since: 08 May 2016
Location: dubai
Posts: 51

Just to say, of all the car forums I've been a member of over the years, this really is the best in terms of the depth of knowledge you guys have!

Thanks all, I'm getting into my local garage today / tomorrow for testing so will report back and pass on our comments!

21st Jul 2016 9:24am

mk1collector

Member Since: 17 Sep 2009
Location: West Yorkshire
Posts: 6769

Check for oil in the red ecu plug Ray
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http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic17615.html

21st Jul 2016 9:54am

Skelkelly

Member Since: 08 May 2016
Location: dubai
Posts: 51

I looked at the ECU earlier in the week and all looked dry, will check again though.

21st Jul 2016 10:08am

Skelkelly

Member Since: 08 May 2016
Location: dubai
Posts: 51

Red plug...

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21st Jul 2016 4:15pm

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