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steverobb1973



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2008 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 SVX Station Wagon Santorini Black
water proofing defender doors
Is there any way to avoid water getting into defender doors from the p!$$ poor window seals. My 2010 has gaps either end around 10mm each. Surely the best way to avoid door bottom rot is to stop water getting in the inside and festering?

Thanks
Post #535569 29th May 2016 7:29am
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huffhuff



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United Kingdom 2001 Defender 90 Td5 HT Java Black
I've often thought the same. The real problem I have is the water ends of damaging the central locking cabling.

New seals will work for a while. You might get a bit of adjustment from the internals if you strip the door card out (as in, improve the gap between glass and seal).

The only other thing I thought was park under cover where possible and maybe fit some wind deflectors in the hope they trickle down than instead?!?

You should have drain holes in the bottom sills...although not sure where they're supposed to drain too... TD5 Defender 90
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Post #535570 29th May 2016 7:38am
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dorsetsmith



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your door are galvanize, the frames and the door skins, all defender door from 2006 onwards are all steel Exclamation
Post #535574 29th May 2016 7:48am
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nitram17



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are the doors of pumas galvanised steel ?
Post #544342 28th Jun 2016 9:29pm
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Retroanaconda



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They're not galvanised, but they are treated steel. Probably a Zintec type affair.
Post #544349 28th Jun 2016 9:49pm
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mk1collector



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England 2004 Defender 110 Td5 CSW Bonatti Grey
No car door is waterproof, they all have drain holes to let water out that gets in. Ray
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Post #544352 28th Jun 2016 9:58pm
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blackwolf



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It's a shame that the second row door drain holes discharge the water onto the rear floor, though!
Post #544356 28th Jun 2016 10:16pm
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mk1collector



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Rolling with laughter that's because Landrover are such precision engineers Rolling with laughter Ray
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Post #544414 29th Jun 2016 8:34am
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Wild Card 90



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England 2012 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 SW Indus Silver
mk1collector wrote:
No car door is waterproof, they all have drain holes to let water out that gets in.

Thatīs how they work best. Water management on modern vehicles with moonroofs, convertibles, folding hardtops and such, is a technology of itīs own. Even so, it only requires a few rotting leaves and debris to see water draining into places where the engineer never dreamed of, and causing havoc. BMW moonroofs have turned spare wheel wells into septic tanks, and Smart ECU and fuseboxes haved filled mysteriously with rainwater, immobilising the vehicles long after they are out of warrenty.

The problem with Defender doors is often caused by , dirt, underseal or soundproofing blocking the (3) drain holes. On the later doors, with an additional lower door seal, the stainless threshhold strips and /or over ambitious door alignment (to try to make it seal better) can squeeze the seal together preventing water from draining out of the door when it is closed. The door then fills up with water until it overflows down the inside of the door trim and into the footwells. 1998 Tdi 90 SW,
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Post #544421 29th Jun 2016 9:00am
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blackwolf



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey
One the subject of doors and water, I also admire the way that the LR engineers designed the hollow foam seal round my second row doors so that (a) it fills with water, and (b) due to the precision alignment of the holes in the foam, it squirts me in the face when I shut the door!

It would have been very hard to make it do that intentionally!

I love my Defender all the same! Thumbs Up
Post #544424 29th Jun 2016 9:03am
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miket



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Always worth checking the water shedders in the doors - they channel any water that gets in past the window seals down and out through the drain holes.

I know how important they are because I had my doors replaced after they were stolen and found that the inside of my 110 was soaking after any rain. Turned out that the water shedders hadn't been replaced in any of the doors and so the water poured in. Took the door cards off myself and put new shedders in myself - all dry inside now. Well, apart from the one leak from the A pillar that I can't track down...

Mike
Post #544466 29th Jun 2016 11:21am
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mick



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Just keep spraying a lube in every so often
Post #544606 29th Jun 2016 5:45pm
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agentmulder



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miket wrote:
Turned out that the water shedders hadn't been replaced in any of the doors and so the water poured in. Took the door cards off myself and put new shedders in myself - all dry inside now. Well, apart from the one leak from the A pillar that I can't track down...


Word for word, the same here... Solved the bowel problem, working on the consonants...
Post #544653 29th Jun 2016 8:11pm
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nitram17



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miket wrote:
Always worth checking the water shedders in the doors - they channel any water that gets in past the window seals down and out through the drain holes.

I know how important they are because I had my doors replaced after they were stolen and found that the inside of my 110 was soaking after any rain. Turned out that the water shedders hadn't been replaced in any of the doors and so the water poured in. Took the door cards off myself and put new shedders in myself - all dry inside now. Well, apart from the one leak from the A pillar that I can't track down...

Mike


any pics of the water shredders?
Post #544678 29th Jun 2016 8:57pm
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dorsetsmith



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LR part number EJD500620 RH / EJD500630 LH front door
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