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| K9F Member Since: 12 Nov 2009 Location: Bournemouth Posts: 9610   
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Ooooh 1 million. We could keep having referendums until 'referendum fatigue' is such that only one voter turns up and puts his tick in the remain box perhaps? To all those that have signed said petition ......F off and get back to something productive! If the vote had gone the other way I would not be signing any petitions. That's the whole point about having a Democratic Society surely? By my own admission and by nature I am a selfish individual and It's all about me! I am 54 years of age and have never voted politically in my life. I voted for the first time Thursday for personal beliefs and reasoning. I do not care one bit personally about those that voted to remain or indeed those that voted to leave. I do care about me and my family. The decision has been made. I too am glad Jeremy Corbyn may be off and David C has seen fit to fall on his sword. As mentioned the process is done. Personal feelings of having been aggrieved in the general populous are profound and emotions are running higher than I have ever seen before (including the Falklands war being an ex servicveman). Scaremongerers (those from the remain camp) are getting on my t1ts (slightly) with their bleating based on what has happened in the preceding 24 hours and their unhappiness about the outcome.. The advantages of leaving will become evident over time once the current mêlée is over and the dust settles. Trade with countries outside the EU will bring wealth and prosperity...PERHAPS? I do not know and neither does anyone else. I FOR ONE WAS NOT HAPPY WITH WHAT WE HAD. THE GOVERNMENT KINDLY GAVE ME THE OPPORTUNITY BY TICKING A SINGLE BOX TO VOTE FOR CHANGE. THIS I DID. I WAS NOT INFLUENCED BY EITHER CAMPAIGN. If that change transpires that it was not the right decision our democracy allows the voting populous to influence further changes. WE NEED TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS FIRST. I for one am excited with anticipation of what may lie ahead. I have not felt that excitement about our Country ever before. If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!! Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!! Last edited by K9F on 25th Jun 2016 10:46am. Edited 2 times in total |
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25th Jun 2016 10:36am |
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| X4SKP Member Since: 29 Nov 2013 Location: Berkshire Posts: 2295 
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Too late Yes...
But the 3.8% difference between the Leave and Remain vote, is not the reported 'clear decision' in my opinion. This can only be a protest vote surely... 
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/131215 
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25th Jun 2016 10:45am |
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| K9F Member Since: 12 Nov 2009 Location: Bournemouth Posts: 9610
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^^^^^^
"To implement 'a rule' What friggin' rule. A rule that states if the result is not as you would have wished you pluck a few figures out of the air and rewrite the rules introducing a margin between winner and loser? I'll try that one next time at the dogs when I lose. If all signatories in the remain camp were to sign it another petition could be raised from the leave camp to uphold the original democratic process Referendum Result. Will it change anything? Errrr NO!  If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!
Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!! Last edited by K9F on 25th Jun 2016 10:55am. Edited 2 times in total |
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25th Jun 2016 10:50am |
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| Lost for Words Member Since: 18 Jun 2015 Location: Warminster, Wiltshire Posts: 200 |
Actually it's a 3.8% difference. Under the circumstances, I think that's pretty clear, probably more so than we were expecting. Visiting from DISCO3.CO.UK
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25th Jun 2016 10:51am |
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| Laurie Member Since: 22 Feb 2008 Location: Sussex, England Posts: 2897  
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25th Jun 2016 11:02am |
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| K9F Member Since: 12 Nov 2009 Location: Bournemouth Posts: 9610
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My other half mentioned that cartoon not 20 minutes ago.
Great post Laurie.....Thank you from me!  If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!
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25th Jun 2016 11:04am |
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| Birdy Member Since: 07 Oct 2011 Location: Côte d'Azur Posts: 872  
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“I do not care one bit personally about those that voted to remain or indeed those that voted to leave. I do care about me and my family”
Yup, and an immediate consequence for me of BREXIT concerns the Court of Justice's ruling in Case C-558/10, namely that my pension “cannot be taxed either directly or indirectly by a Member State and is withdrawn from the tax sovereignty of Member States...” So when the UK is no longer a Member State, unless I wish to contribute over twenty grand a year to HMRC and five grand National Insurance so they can “re-distribute my wealth” to benefit scroungers (don't I pay enough into the coffers with 20% VAT on everything I buy?), I've no option other than within the next two years to move permanently into my holiday gaff and become yet another expat living in the South of France. “The decision has been made” Exactly, whatever one says about the UK, it IS a democracy, and the majority voted to leave; I'm only disappointed that the Prime Minister didn't show real courage and say “I was always of the opinion that it was better to stay within the EU, but for the remainder of my term I will ensure that the transition is made as painlessly as possible”. Peter ps Anybody wanna buy a house in Norfolk and a 2.4 Land Rover at knock-down prices? Last edited by Birdy on 25th Jun 2016 12:41pm. Edited 1 time in total |
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25th Jun 2016 12:29pm |
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| K9F Member Since: 12 Nov 2009 Location: Bournemouth Posts: 9610
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Should France also leave it will make no difference surely? All rumour and conjecture admittedly but as stated it is interesting times and there aren't many guarantees about anything from where I'm sat at the moment? If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!
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25th Jun 2016 12:34pm |
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| Cupboard Member Since: 21 Mar 2014 Location: Suffolk Posts: 2971 
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The arguments that were key to the whole leave campaign, the arguments that got millions of people to to vote leave, have been dismissed by the people that the arguments supported as incorrect.
And you don't think there's something wrong there? We're all selfish in our own little ways but I aspire to be better than selfish. |
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25th Jun 2016 12:43pm |
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| Birdy Member Since: 07 Oct 2011 Location: Côte d'Azur Posts: 872
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Then I'll move to Germany. After all, isn't Germany and its Berlin Motor Works the secret power behind the machinations of European domination, with Frau Merkel the anti-Christ?
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25th Jun 2016 12:44pm |
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| need4speed Member Since: 23 Nov 2012 Location: Kilmarnock Posts: 746 |
Pickles i understand your point - every country on the globe has its share of immigrants. The big difference between the UK (before leaving the EU) and Australia for example, is that Australian people vote and decide on what happens in their own country. That has not been the case here. We have been dictated to by a bunch of idiots in another country.
So yes, i understand other countries have their problems. But at least Australia (and other countries outside the EU) decides its own fate. Unless im missing something.. |
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25th Jun 2016 12:50pm |
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| K9F Member Since: 12 Nov 2009 Location: Bournemouth Posts: 9610
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Germany may not be a wise option either perhaps? I think many of the EU governing bodies were fearful of possible dissent in their own backyards if we went out? My late Mother was German and from the phone calls I received from relatives it wouldn't surprise me if they will also call for their own referendum too? They are glad we have made a stand and are happy for me. They too are strong willed with harsh opinions. Such is their will that in my experience most of the western German populous were glad when the Berlin Wall came down, I was stationed there at the time, subsequently as their realisation dawned of the consequences most would now agree that the fall of the Berlin Wall was not so good after all. Not good for them! They had no choice in that instance, given choice they would rebuild it tomorrow. My son was 'in' my daughter first 'in' then 'out.' My son is aggrieved and sulking....situation normal. My daughter has reservations about the choice she has made. I have told them both to wipe their minges and move on. The rest of the closer family were 'out.' I am excited about any forthcoming changes. I voted for change and as with everything there will be both positives and negatives. I shall address them all as best I can when they happen. As with any mass stampede there is a huge cloud of dust obscuring everything from sight. Time will tell once the dust settles if the environment we find ourselves in is better from where we stampeded from. No real point speculating about the UK's position or standing in the overall scheme of things at this moment in time. If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!! Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!! Last edited by K9F on 25th Jun 2016 1:16pm. Edited 3 times in total |
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25th Jun 2016 1:06pm |
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| Leviathan Member Since: 24 Oct 2015 Location: Staffs Posts: 248
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I am sick and tired of bleating, sore losers throughout the media.
They imply that those that voted out are somehow less educated, or racist, or 'little englanders', or northern, or elderly, etc etc etc. Dont they get it, even now? |
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25th Jun 2016 1:07pm |
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| The Hulk Member Since: 13 Apr 2016 Location: Aberdeenshire Posts: 81  
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Considering your stance on the Scottish question, that's a pretty ironic statement Mid Life; Live It!
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25th Jun 2016 1:09pm |
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