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How do you intend to vote in the eu referendum on June 23rd?

Leave

60%

[88]

Remain

32%

[47]

Undecided

[11]

Total Votes: 146

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mk1collector

Member Since: 17 Sep 2009
Location: West Yorkshire
Posts: 6769

leeds wrote:
Don't worry Eric, I did not take it personally.

Some people have been extremely vocal on their views. Interesting comparing this poll results with the actual referendum results

What annoyed me was that both sides did not give a clear, honest, open plans on what will happen to the UK after the results were declared.

I am no economist but I am concerned about exchange rates which most people seem to ignore. Yes people argue our exports will be cheaper, but as a country we import more goods then we export. I think prices and cost of living in the UK will increase now.

As the old Chinese curse goes "We now live in interesting times"

Brendan

The pound to euro is pretty much the same rate as it was in February. Ray
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24th Jun 2016 10:15am

leeds

Member Since: 28 Dec 2009
Location: West Yorkshire
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My fear is that in this rush by the common man to make Britain Great again ( I personally think we always were) will only succeed in making the United Kingdom very Disunited.
Barbara

24th Jun 2016 10:17am

mk1collector

Member Since: 17 Sep 2009
Location: West Yorkshire
Posts: 6769

Surely the whole point of this referendum was to decide how to look positively to the uk's future. What has been decided by the majority is now what's happening, there's no point in worrying what might have been so like the British always do, let's make the best of it and move on

Ray
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24th Jun 2016 10:23am

leeds

Member Since: 28 Dec 2009
Location: West Yorkshire
Posts: 8581

Just listened to Nicola Sturgeon and she confirms what I was worried about. A second referendum on Scottish independence is on the table as circumstances have materially changed.
Barbara

24th Jun 2016 10:37am

Pickles

Member Since: 26 May 2013
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 3784

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need4speed wrote:
Pickles wrote:
DISASTER, the best recipe for financial chaos that I've ever seen.
Don't believe me?...Wait & see.
Pickles.

Your right. I dont believe you.

But then looking at your profile your in Australia. A country that is independent and doesn't have to answer to another. A country that has tight border controls. A country that makes its own..... laws. I could go on and on.

Luxuries that the UK can now take back.....

Clearly, You have no idea of Aussie issues......"Doesn't have to answer to another"?......that is the most "uneducated"definition of Aussie that I've ever heard.
And if you went "on & on" along the same track, you'd be even "wronger".
"Secure Borders"?....At the moment, you are right on that one. However, if you are truly aware of the state of Aussie politics, you'd know that we have an election in 8 days time, the opposing parties being 50/50 at this stage....you would also no doubt be aware that the party in opposition at the moment does not have a "secure borders"policy,..rather they are open door.,....no doubt you know what that means.
Whilst your opinions are poles apart from mine,...actually, I hope you're right.
Pickles.

24th Jun 2016 10:59am

Pickles

Member Since: 26 May 2013
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 3784

leeds wrote:
Just listened to Nicola Sturgeon and she confirms what I was worried about. A second referendum on Scottish independence is on the table as circumstances have materially changed.
Barbara

Yes,..that is only the start,.....I think a "can of worms" has been opened.
Pickles.

24th Jun 2016 11:01am

Merlin

Member Since: 30 Oct 2010
Location: Newmarket
Posts: 981

Euro lottery tickets still on sale! Haven't they heard?

Merlin

24th Jun 2016 11:12am

need4speed

Member Since: 23 Nov 2012
Location: Kilmarnock
Posts: 746

Ok pickles. Im clearly wrong in your opinion.

So tell me. Who does Australia answer to? France? Germany? Who tells you that you have to accept so many million imigrants against your will?

Im not Australian so i wouldnt be inclined to comment on Australian politics. Maybe you should consider the same courtesy?

Just a thought.

24th Jun 2016 11:31am

Martin
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24th Jun 2016 11:34am

need4speed

Member Since: 23 Nov 2012
Location: Kilmarnock
Posts: 746

Barbara. Im Scottish. For the 1st time in my life im ashamed to be one.

In 2014 i voted to stay within the UK. As did the slight majority of Scots. Now they are talking about a 2nd referendum so Scotland can stay within the EU independently of the UK.

But all this is a knee-jerk reaction. I wonder hown many Scots will have the stomach for independence once they realise that we would have to adopt the EURO????

24th Jun 2016 11:40am

blackwolf

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Location: South West England
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Martin wrote:
Anyone asked LR when they're restarting Defender production?

They already have - in a manner of speaking!

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24th Jun 2016 11:44am

ericvv

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24th Jun 2016 11:48am

Cupboard

Member Since: 21 Mar 2014
Location: Suffolk
Posts: 2971

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need4speed wrote:
Pickles wrote:
DISASTER, the best recipe for financial chaos that I've ever seen.
Don't believe me?...Wait & see.
Pickles.

Your right. I dont believe you.

But then looking at your profile your in Australia. A country that is independent and doesnt have to answer to another. A country that has tight border controls. A country that makes its own laws. I could go on and on.

Luxuries that the UK can now take back.....

Leaving the EU won't actually fix any of your perceived problems though, and makes it harder to fix the underlying issues.
If we want to continue trading with our neighbours we still have to follow their standards, same way that if people want to sell us stuff they have to follow our rules. The CE mark means a product meets European standards and can be sold in Europe and means we don't have to faff around making things meet French standards, Belgian standards, German standards... etc.

Now of course we also trade with the rest of the world, and that means we have to make stuff to conform to things like US standards and you know what that actually makes my life more difficult than if the standards were standardised.

P.S "you're" means you are, "your" means belonging to you. Your rights, the rights of you; you're right: you are correct. Your Australia, the Australia that you have; you're in Australia, you live in that country.

24th Jun 2016 11:49am

blackwolf

Member Since: 03 Nov 2009
Location: South West England
Posts: 17386

leeds wrote:
Just listened to Nicola Sturgeon and she confirms what I was worried about. A second referendum on Scottish independence is on the table as circumstances have materially changed.
Barbara

I can't help but feel that a lot of that is the Sturgeon-creature capitalising on popular mood for her own political ambitions. If it went to a second referendum, would the result be any different to last time? Turn-out might be better I suppose.

It is hard to argue against that contention that the people of Scotland will have more say in their own destiny as part of an independant UK than as part of an EU superstate. I would also challenge the assertion that circumstances have "materially changed" since at the time of the Scottish referendum it was known that the EU referendum was to happen and that there was the possibility that the majority of UK citizens might vote to leave.

I think that an awful lot of the opinions we've heard voiced this morning are the product of sore losers. The price of living in a democracy is that in the event you hold the minority view you have to accept the majority's wishes.

24th Jun 2016 11:53am

need4speed

Member Since: 23 Nov 2012
Location: Kilmarnock
Posts: 746

Completely agree blackwolf

24th Jun 2016 12:00pm

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