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| stanley Member Since: 18 Sep 2009 Location: Dorset /hampshire Posts: 1033   
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Back in the winter at about 4 am in the wet and ice I had a puncture , it was a bit of a pig to get the bottle jack in the right position a fading torch and lying on my front ,
Thinking ahead and as I'm off to Billng next month , just wondered if anyone with far greater knowledge than me can think of a reason that the old style ratchet jack wouldn't work on a 61 plate USW ? Just thought it might have been easier in that situation to use Thanks Greg |
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22nd Jun 2016 8:46am |
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| Cupboard Member Since: 21 Mar 2014 Location: Suffolk Posts: 2971 
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Was it really that bad?!
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22nd Jun 2016 11:59am |
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| stanley Member Since: 18 Sep 2009 Location: Dorset /hampshire Posts: 1033
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Narrow road, pitch black . Trying to get jack in right position meant laying into the road further than I liked , just thinking in certain situations maybe a bit safer at front and back of car. did have triangle out and florid coat on but still felt a bit vulnerable
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22nd Jun 2016 12:06pm |
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| Fatboy Slim Member Since: 04 Feb 2008 Location: Bridgend Posts: 1006 
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Honestly, I'd rather do that than use the
 old ratchet things that should have been banned years ago. They have a habit of damaging tdci rear cross members as well. |
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22nd Jun 2016 12:14pm |
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| I Like Old Skool Member Since: 23 Feb 2015 Location: Manchester Posts: 823 
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Just drive slowly another 100yds to a safer spot. The tyre should be fine if you don't go far.
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22nd Jun 2016 1:47pm |
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| miker Member Since: 13 Sep 2015 Location: Surrey Posts: 1768 
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I'm in agreement with Fatboy, can't stand that ratchet thing. Mine is lifted slightly as well, so it can only just get a wheel off the ground on perfectly level surface, and it's pretty hairy.
Slow as hell too, even when using a drill to turn it 
I'm going to get a bottle jack. Far more secure. In terms of access it's pretty easy to get it in the right spot from front, rear or side I think. |
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22nd Jun 2016 3:32pm |
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| YOLO110 Member Since: 14 Feb 2015 Location: Perth Oz and Stansted UK Posts: 1646 
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Slight thread drift...
I have a 1.5 Ton capacity trolley jack... is that man enough to lift one corner of a 90 under the axle jacking point on level ground in order to change a tyre? YOLO... You Only Live Once... |
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22nd Jun 2016 4:57pm |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17549 
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Yes.
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22nd Jun 2016 4:58pm |
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| YOLO110 Member Since: 14 Feb 2015 Location: Perth Oz and Stansted UK Posts: 1646
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Perfect!
Much easier to use than the OEM bottle jack.  YOLO... You Only Live Once... |
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22nd Jun 2016 5:00pm |
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| I Like Old Skool Member Since: 23 Feb 2015 Location: Manchester Posts: 823
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Can you explain to me where the axle jacking points are on a Defender? AFAIK there aren't any and the jack should only be placed under the axle tube, not under any of the suspension brackets....... |
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22nd Jun 2016 5:11pm |
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| YOLO110 Member Since: 14 Feb 2015 Location: Perth Oz and Stansted UK Posts: 1646
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That is my understanding too...
 YOLO... You Only Live Once... |
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22nd Jun 2016 5:14pm |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17549
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You won't do any harm at all with a trolley jack if you locate the jack underneath the attachment point of radius arm to axle.
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22nd Jun 2016 6:20pm |
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| I Like Old Skool Member Since: 23 Feb 2015 Location: Manchester Posts: 823
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I figured you probably knew this but I just wanted to clear up any misconception. Far to many don't understand the difference and half of them seem to work at Kwik Fit (the other half work at Halfords where they pretend to fix bicycles, but that is another topic!  ).
It probably won't do any harm to jack a land rover under the axle brackets because they are pretty beefy fabrications. This doesn't make it right and that Kwik Sh!t attitude that the jack can be stuck just anywhere could do some serious and possibly dangerous damage to most normal cars (look how flimsy some of the pressed steel wishbones are on many independent suspension cars to get an idea of what I am talking about). Jacking under the radius arm brackets means jacking under the radius arms and this in turn means you are jacking the vehicle using the front radius arm bushes. Again, probably not a big issue if the bushes are in good shape but why do this when it is no more trouble to use best practice and get it right? |
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23rd Jun 2016 8:18am |
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| PCA42 Member Since: 15 Jun 2014 Location: Church Stretton Posts: 468  
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I've just chucked out the screw-type pillar jack in my DCPU and put in the later type/SW bottle jack kit in the battery box, since I've fitted +2" dampers and dislocation cones so my wheel will still be on the floor with the screw jack at full extension!
Also means I can use it to lift my trailer if I have a flat on that instead of carrying two jacks. Sounds like you just need a decent torch  Pete
2010 Discovery 4 GS TDV6 1972 Series III 88" 2.25P |
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24th Jun 2016 10:20pm |
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